"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Had a horrible night out at local bar

sosousage

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We met these 2 girls at our local dive bar. At first conversation flowed very smoothly and freely but I just ran out of things to talk about and I just couldn't keep conversation going at all. I don't know if it was anxiety or self doubt or being too desperate

the girl was maybe a 6/10 27 year old so nothing special plus she wasn't really my type personality wise so nothing is lost but I'm frustrated that I couldn't keep her very heavily interested in me

I'm happy I experienced this rejection though. I need to be very comfortable with rejection but I have to find a way to always keep conversation free and smooth
Just tell her you are looking for girlfriend and ask if she wants to have sex with you. be bold
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This realization is honestly progress. The other thing to keep in mind is that most other people are just as neurotic and you are (don't take that the wrong way.) What I mean in saying this is that everyone is caught up worried about their own stuff and thinking everyone else is judging them and etc. It's a form of arrogance and self absorption many/most people indulge in.

Once you understand that everybody else is just as neurotic as the next guy, then you realize everyone else is too worried about their "stuff" to be critical of you. And then you can just relax and learn to chill out.

Dave, I have a question for you. Do you think that coming from a sales background that you are selling yourself too much? If you are do you think dialing that back and picking out interesting things the chick says and asking more about that might help keep conversation going?

Believe it or not years ago I was painfully shy. And as I emerged from painfully shy I went through a painfully self-conscious (see self absorbed, above) stage. So I've been through this evolution myself. Now I am truly confident and I have been for years. I don't care what people think about me, I'm not afraid to say what I think, I'm not afraid to open up emotionally, I'm good with who I am and that energy radiates from me and is extremely attractive.

I remember a big epiphany in my journey was realizing everybody else is just as worried about what everyone thinks as I was...so much so that they probably don't even notice whatever thing I was doing that I was hyper self criticizing myself about. Here on the board you are revealing your internal dialogue so it's here for the observing...so we can see it and speak to it. In real life nobody cares nearly as much as you think they do. That was a great relief once I digested it.

the question about sales- I don't really do any active "selling" at my job

i just make customers feel very comfortable around me and they naturally want to buy
 

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Why don't you ask them questions to see if they meet all of your high standards that you're always blabbering on about here
 

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Dave, have you read DJ Bible section about conversations? Have you practiced it with everyone?

In order for someone else to be interested in you, you must be interested in him/ her first. At first, it was hard for me to do this because I'm an introvert. And then it got easier as I let them do most of the talking.

The way you communicate during the conversations will signal her whether you just want to be a friend or something more. This is a very complex matter to explain in a single post. I suggest you to learn about verbal and nonverbal communications. You aren't just communicating through your words, but you are communicating through your whole body. And women can read these signals better than us.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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