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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

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Gym game, the battle against headphones

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From experience, the majority of people at the gym (indeed, everywhere) are open for a general quick chat.

Headphones are an absolute killer though.

The great thing about the gym is you can drop a quick one-liner short comment, and see who is totally focussed on the workout (or limited for time) or who can chat for a minute or two. You're all moving about between equipment so it's not a constrained environment like a bar.

But drop a line to someone with headphones in, wait three or four seconds for them to "mute" or whatever, then say stuff again, maybe twice if they misheard, and it goes awkward af very quickly.

(It feels similar to when headphones started being worn in work offices mid 2010s. Those people miss out on so much. You also end up associating songs with venues... I don't want my favourite music to be linked mentally to gym or work!)
 

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This is why instead of gyms i go to training pools, running/hiking spots, not only that its tiring -i mainly approach someone when we're at rest during reps. I once entered a gym with a friend, this idiot did 3x10 bicep curls then proceeds to doom scroll half an hour
 

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Duuuude.
Have you considered they are wearing headphones for a reason ? Ie to put dudes off approaching them at the gym?

do you think women want to be seduced whilst doing a workout… cmon .

edit: I used to do hot yoga, I’m lolling to myself imagining a scenario of trying to hit on a chick during a hot yoga class.:lol:
 
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it goes awkward af very quickly.
Yes this is sad.

Infact I do not wear them, and I don't approach people with headhphones.

Here’s an interesting thing. (Both women were headphones free)
Yesterday I was at the gym and a girl asked me which barbell weighed 10 kg, so I told her the one she’d picked up only weighed 7.
Two minutes later, another girl nearby pretended she couldn't get a piece of squat equipment to lock into place, so I went over to help and pointed out that she was trying to put it in the wrong way around.

So, did I take this as flirting or just a case of helping out?
You’ll never know for sure with women unless you ask.
Then, based on her answer, you’ll find out.

In my scenario, girl 1 was attractive, I will follow up her in the next sessions, and open some conversations with her, test waters, and ask her out.
Girl 2 still attractive but really too tall for me, I won't ask her out.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Duuuude.
Have you considered they are wearing headphones for a reason ? Ie to put dudes off approaching them at the gym?

do you think women want to be seduced whilst doing a workout… cmon .

edit: I used to do hot yoga, I’m lolling to myself imagining a scenario of trying to hit on a chick during a hot yoga class.:lol:
I know plenty who'll happily take headphones off and then have a 20 minute chat around sets. Wearing them is usually because they want their own music rather than the gym's.

You never really get a "I don't want to talk to you" impression...maybe just "I've only got 45 mins".

The nuisance thing (which I didn't really explain in the OP) is that there can be clear buying signals, and yet then that 5-10 seconds of awkwardness which breaks any vibes.

I think it's fairly sad that.it is a social environment full of high-achievers, sober, regulars who obviously recognise each other...but rarely talk. This isn't about treating it as PUA place.
 

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Yes this is sad.

Infact I do not wear them, and I don't approach people with headhphones.

Here’s an interesting thing. (Both women were headphones free)
Yesterday I was at the gym and a girl asked me which barbell weighed 10 kg, so I told her the one she’d picked up only weighed 7.
Two minutes later, another girl nearby pretended she couldn't get a piece of squat equipment to lock into place, so I went over to help and pointed out that she was trying to put it in the wrong way around.

So, did I take this as flirting or just a case of helping out?
You’ll never know for sure with women unless you ask.
Then, based on her answer, you’ll find out.

In my scenario, girl 1 was attractive, I will follow up her in the next sessions, and open some conversations with her, test waters, and ask her out.
Girl 2 still attractive but really too tall for me, I won't ask her out.
yes dude they are both flirting w you,
Always take that situation and flex your flirt back also
 

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Yesterday I was at the gym and a girl asked me which barbell weighed 10 kg, so I told her the one she’d picked up only weighed 7.
Two minutes later, another girl nearby pretended she couldn't get a piece of squat equipment to lock into place, so I went over to help and pointed out that she was trying to put it in the wrong way around.

So, did I take this as flirting or just a case of helping out?
You’ll never know for sure with women unless you ask.
Yeah just help, ask em what they are training today. If it ends there, walk...if they ask your workout, start sperging about bro-splits and rep ranges... ;)
 

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I know plenty who'll happily take headphones off and then have a 20 minute chat around sets. Wearing them is usually because they want their own music rather than the gym's.

You never really get a "I don't want to talk to you" impression...maybe just "I've only got 45 mins".

The nuisance thing (which I didn't really explain in the OP) is that there can be clear buying signals, and yet then that 5-10 seconds of awkwardness which breaks any vibes.

I think it's fairly sad that.it is a social environment full of high-achievers, sober, regulars who obviously recognise each other...but rarely talk. This isn't about treating it as PUA place.
oh true.
hmmm if there are clear buying signals , then that pause shouldn’t break the vibe .. idk
I mean if the signals are there , she’ll be engaging w you , i would have thought.

20 min chats is really good.

btw have you actually had results from approaching at the gym?
 

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20 min chats is really good.

btw have you actually had results from approaching at the gym?
I'm only getting back into this just recently..so will have to report back in time on results...

The impression I've got is that "third spaces" (community spaces) have collapsed...gym is one of the very few left now where you get to see familiar faces. Social circle game I suppose, rather than "approaching"..this is also 7a.m. rather than nighttime type stuff.

Ps. 20 mins would be with a fellow bro.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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