"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Guys who want to be controled and act AFC reguardless

Jvesti

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Hey everyone,

I got a buddy of mine. Who actually is very good gettin chicks, gets numbers easy, can get laid quite easy. He got the natural charm about him. Probably from the fact he needs to make everyone like him, but that's another story. He is the kind of person that can walk into a restaurant charm the host and get early seating.

Anyways, He seems to get these girlfriends. They are usually real petite, bossy, and manipulative. IT's always the same type of girl. He starts out using his charm, then eventually the tables are turned, and he starts to become the ***** of the relationship not making a decision on his own. They start their manipulation and it gets bad.

I have tried to help him and make him realize his mistakes, but it always happens. He gets into these long term relationships, where he gets controled, walked over, (He spend $7000 on a promise ring for his latest one) He seems to be addicted to it. His last girlfriend he went out for 2 years took him practically a year to get over.

Is it just some people are beyond help? What do you think is going on in this person's head, why are certain people usually this needy? Any thoughts on gettin him out of the ***** trance and stop being a sucker?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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WatchMeWalk

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I know what you mean. Men these days have a nasty tendency for spiritual submission to women. I'm sorry to say, but it is useless to convince guys like this of their folly. What it does take is being burned. Sometimes, only once is enough. Most cases they never learn.
 

Jvesti

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Originally posted by WatchMeWalk
I know what you mean. Men these days have a nasty tendency for spiritual submission to women. I'm sorry to say, but it is useless to convince guys like this of their folly. What it does take is being burned. Sometimes, only once is enough. Most cases they never learn.
yup I've know him since i was 18, im 22 now. I've seen him get into 3 long term relationships. Totally get ****ed over, abused, controled. I'd say he's spent over $20,000 - $35k in the past 4 years or so on girlfriends alone. I doubt he was any different with the girls before him.
 

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you just said it, he's "addicted to it".

@utwardly, he has game. hence he can attract chicks--naturally. he's naturally charming or whatever.

inwardly, he's a wuzz bag. soon enough, the jig is up, and he's relegated to "the nice guy" in most cases.

i know people like this--they're AFCs once you get to know them. they are pretender DJs.

chicks would tend to stick with him because he's "such a nice guy". chicks always want a nice guy around so he can help her move furniture, hang a picture, fix the toilet, take her out for a nice dinner, buy her things, make her feel "special", boost the ego, have a back up, get a male perspective on the new bf that she wants to fvck (the real DJ), etc...

even with chicks that aren't intentionally using a guy, they still will. almost universally, chicks do this with such a natural skill, it's truly astounding.

i have a friend who doesn't have any problem whatsoever picking up chicks because he's "sooooooooooo cute". he's like a little trophy boy. chicks will even buy HIM gifts, etc. his current chick just bought him a $500 dig cam! but, he's a loser. he's also an obnoxious drunk. dude can't keep a chick for more than two months. every single chick he hooks up with dumps his ass for the exact same reason. it just takes about 1-2 months for these dumbazzes to discover his true colors and wake up.

he's 35, and he doesn't get it. why? he doesn't have to because he's sooooooooo cute. pretty sad, actually. on both sides of the equation.

he too attracts the same types of girls. the mid-twenties girls, who are "sort of" getting it, but aren't quite out of the "Ashton Kutcher" mode and want to get one last shot at landing a funny, smart, confident, successful, pretty boy--so they think.

you should really pay attention to your friend, as i have. study his behavior, and study what types of chicks he's hooked up with, and why he's fvcking up. he sounds terminal, though.

PS: why did the word @utwardly get filtered?
 
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myfriendblu

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You know what? Thats why being a DJ is an entire lifestyle and outlook on life change. See, this guy is a part time DJ. He has game at times, but eventually reverts back to his old AFC ways. He has no grasp of the basic DJ rules and fundementals. he knows what works, but he hasn't made that overhaul life change that it takes.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ScrewIt

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hm..well im starting to wonder about this.

my friend's friend hooked up w/a HB.

she's rich, hot, and 1 yr older than him.

well his friend is cool and down to earth supposedly.
the rich girl goes up to his dump ol dusty house whenever.
the guy is more of the homemaker and the type that cooks and would take care of children if he had any.

i think my friend mentioned something along the lines of guys trying too hard with her, and wanted something for a change.
he's not all tha rich he's ok looking and is not really a guy that has goals for his future, he's happy with what he got now.
i dont know his friend nor gf and never seen what they look like.
but im guessing there are girls out there who want to play "guy of the house" and guys out there who wants to play "housewife"

idont know if he's AFC material. but that's how it goes for him, lucky bastard
 
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