"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Guys who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating, experiences?

Jesse Pinkman

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Update.

After waving through the crap and making things vehemently clear on my profile that I do not want a PPM, I am officially texting back and forth between 6 women. 2 are in Miami and just stunning hot, the other 4 are elsewhere in Florida (namely Tampa). The ones in Tampa are way hornier, I can say that much. I am also having some video chats with the Tampa girls and one of them actually stripped down to something more "comfortable" (different girl this time) when we were chatting and smiled as we chatted.

Gets me how much lower maintenance Tampa girls are compared to Miami girls.

Initially, I thought I was going to text back and forth with 10 women but 4 of the women, all Miami girls, after a few texts, started to pretend like they didn't even read my profile. Immediately jumped to "so how much am I getting for our first meet?" and I am like brrruuhhh :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.

The amount of screening you have to do on this site is insane. I mean even when I messaged girls on the site, before I got their numbers or snaps, I asked if they had read my profile. The girls say they did and then still, after a couple of texts, pretend like they did not. Luckily, I have 6 solid numbers from it now that I am texting. Unfortunately, only 2 of them are in Miami.

Man, it is no wonder why this city just drains dudes when it comes to game. The average PPM here is higher than it is in LA and NYC! It is sugar daddy capital of the US. On a side note, guess my Tinder decided to come back to life because I woke up today with 10 likes which is unusual but hey, whatever, I'll take it but I am not paying for that dumb app.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I have yet to determine if this is a Seeking Arrangement problem or a Miami problem, that's the funniest part of using the site. Some of you have DM'd me and tried the site out with what seem to be promising results, happy for all of you. Seems like so far, it could very well be a Miami thing. My god you have to screen so freaking hard in this city to weed out the gold diggers, sugar babies, and only fans trash. It is no wonder that the smartest closers in this city all go for tourists and tend to run away from everything else. I really need to update my Miami guide.

I've also considered doing a week in Tampa of running game and seeing where it takes me. Seems like Tampa is the more up and coming type of city with some promise for game and Miami is sort of the city that peaked in terms of game.
 

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i haven't experience in sugar dating . but i think it's interest in sugar dating..all of you can enjoy your first sugar date in sugarbook so on dating apps...
 

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i haven't experience in sugar dating . but i think it's interest in sugar dating..all of you can enjoy your first sugar date in sugarbook so on dating apps...
In my opinion, i think sugar dating is legit.. It's also very helpful for guys who have a lot of money but they feel lonely. Through sugar dating, they can ask their favorite girls to accompany them to watch movies, go shopping, have meals, travel and so on
 

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I have to give you credit this has been one hell of a social experiment to bad you don't have a YouTube channel
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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No more updates with Seeking Arrangements or did other women ask you for money when you are about to meet-up? You got shadowbanned on Tinder/Bumble and now you are a financial pinata doll on Seeking Arrangements. Well, at least there is always cold-approaching and being a passport bro.
This guy always has something negative to say, you must be a charmer in rea life.
 

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I have to give you credit this has been one hell of a social experiment to bad you don't have a YouTube channel
I agree. Jesse deserves credit for sticking out his neck and describing in detail how it all goes down.

What I don't like is how quickly threads get emotionally charged when there a little pushback. To many members are offended way too easily. Gotta have a thicker skin.

Remember; women are WAY more ruthless and WAY less compassionate than men.
 

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I have yet to determine if this is a Seeking Arrangement problem or a Miami problem, that's the funniest part of using the site. Some of you have DM'd me and tried the site out with what seem to be promising results, happy for all of you. Seems like so far, it could very well be a Miami thing. My god you have to screen so freaking hard in this city to weed out the gold diggers, sugar babies, and only fans trash. It is no wonder that the smartest closers in this city all go for tourists and tend to run away from everything else. I really need to update my Miami guide.

I've also considered doing a week in Tampa of running game and seeing where it takes me. Seems like Tampa is the more up and coming type of city with some promise for game and Miami is sort of the city that peaked in terms of game.
What about Orlando?
 

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So here is the reality. Lately, I have not been as on my game. I have been sick a lot and dealing with way too much crap from toxic people in my life that I have had to cut out. Today, I had kind of a reset and a major detox go through to where I felt better than I have in quite some time. I looked at Seeking Arrangements and so far, I have to say that it is going well. It is still an adjustment period for me but I have noticed a few more things about it.

1. Women really take the time out the fill out their profiles. I mean attractive women with great things going on in their lives taking the time fill out a descriptive bio trying to sell themselves. You just do not see this on any of the apps.

2. It is worth repeating, the quality is significantly higher. You just see far more attractive women.

3. Women go right to text or Snapchat if that when going off the site. Almost no girl wants you to know her IG which speaks to how taboo sugar dating or the site is.

I have been talking to 6 women back and forth somewhat consistently but been too ill in my health to really capitalize like I would like to. Lately, been feeling a lot better so I feel like a date might actually be right around the corner. Of any major dating platform, SA is giving me the most traction.
 

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I agree. Jesse deserves credit for sticking out his neck and describing in detail how it all goes down.

What I don't like is how quickly threads get emotionally charged when there a little pushback. To many members are offended way too easily. Gotta have a thicker skin.

Remember; women are WAY more ruthless and WAY less compassionate than men.
There is a fine line and when I feel like someone is personally going at me, I have to go at them. When a guy tells me that it is "karma" for me cold approaching and laughs at me, or anyone, going through a tough stretch then I call them out on it. When I have had bad run ins with some in other places and they continue to bring that to this thread, I call them out on it. We all have a breaking point.

Almost everyone I have got into it with in this thread has confronted me on other threads, including my field reports one, with low value content and I had to call them out on it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Those rules don't apply to Seeking Arrangements or pay4play arrangements.
Yes they do. A high end lounge is ok, but only for drinks. Now if she was an official escort, and not one trying to misrepresent herself on a sugar site, maybe that's different.
 

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My older overweight balding cousin used SA for a while. He is a business owner with money to blow. He got addicted to SA. He started having a new girl come over almost everyday that he would meet on there. Then he met a 40 yr old meth head single mom who doesn’t see her kids on there. She slithered her way in and now they live together and he pays for everything. He even pays for her meth. He said they are in love. SA changed him. He became a different person. My parents and I haven’t spoke to him in over a year.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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