"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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guys i need help!!!!!

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alright i met this girl right when i got off the boat at the end of summer. we just clicked perfectly. shes 10 years older than me with 2 kids but that doesnt bother me at all. right before she met me she threw all her eggs in the basket for this guy who turned out to be a complete psycho. the relationship lasted only 2 weeks with the psycho. she meets me a few days later. she starts telling me later down the road that she feels resistance towards me and that i deserve more, she feels that all she's giving me is scraps, etc. she told me the age thing really bothers her and that she doesn't see this going anywhere, but still loves hanging out w/ me and loves spending time w/ me. she doesn't want to break up ,but the longer we keep going the more that she can't give me all of her and the age thing stresses her out more. What do i do here guys? everything was awesome in the begining and how do i get it back to that point? she makes time for me so i know she likes me. totally confused here. any ideas?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Become scarce. You are something for her to do while she waits for the real deal to come into her sites.

The ONLY thing for you to do is to back off. Her real evaluation of you and her relationship with you will become very apparent.

You're new here. Have you read the DJ Bible and the Book of Pook?
 

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no i haven't checked out either of them. thanks for the advice. become scarce. will do.
 

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are you sexing her up? If you aren't then you are just some guy who lifts her up and tells her how wonderful she is and thats your only purpose of being around.
 

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sea lover said:
alright i met this girl right when i got off the boat at the end of summer. ... shes 10 years older than me with 2 kids but that doesnt bother me at all. right before she met me she threw all her eggs in the basket for this guy who turned out to be a complete psycho. the relationship lasted only 2 weeks with the psycho. she meets me a few days later. she starts telling me later down the road that she feels resistance towards me and that i deserve more, she feels that all she's giving me is scraps, etc. she told me the age thing really bothers her and that she doesn't see this going anywhere, but still loves hanging out w/ me and loves spending time w/ me. she doesn't want to break up ,but the longer we keep going the more that she can't give me all of her and the age thing stresses her out more. What do i do here guys? everything was awesome in the begining and how do i get it back to that point? she makes time for me so i know she likes me. totally confused here. any ideas?
who is the real psycho here? too many women bad mouth the ex, and the previous ex and the one before!!! how come they seem to meet so many nutters? well there is one common denominator usually
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yea shyguy i am. she has her kids week on week off. we meet up on her week off. we set to spend the day and nite together tomorrow. prolly get my last bang in and become scarce. i think thats my plan.
 

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Well honestly I think it's a huge mistake to get involved with her if you don't have kids and she does and you're younger than she is by a lot. Because eventually you're going to want kids of your own and she might not be into it.

But I would def throw everything out there and stop being the "AFC" and just say

"Listen, if this age thing is that big of a deal to you then we might as well call it quits now, I dont' have a problem with it and it's really making me think you have a lot of insecurities that you tying every other guy to me because of your age and kids."

Something a long those lines!!

I dated a girl a couple months ago that I had to just throw it out there like that because she wanted kids and I didn't I wasn't going to pursue something that had no future. So figure that out!!
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Become scarce. You are something for her to do while she waits for the real deal to come into her sites.

The ONLY thing for you to do is to back off. Her real evaluation of you and her relationship with you will become very apparent.

You're new here. Have you read the DJ Bible and the Book of Pook?
Listen to this guy^^^^^

Single mommy plus two kids? Careful careful.

She just got out of a relationship with a psycho? hmmm

Lay low, and really think about WTF you are doing before you get emotionally involved.
 
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