"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Guy i work with in total denial...its sad

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Guy is married, not sure how long but its been a while...always complaining that his wife won't have sex with him because she is "busy" and has stuff going on. Also told us how she is always going to cabins for the weekend with her girlfriends and spending $200-300 for groceries, lmao!!

I straight up told the dude that she is paying for a motel/hotel for the weekend and probably paying for their meals and banging another guy but he got all defensive about it and said I didn't know what I'm talking about and that she isn't like that. I told him he can believe what he wants but that women love sex as much or more than guys and if she isn't having it with him she is having it with someone else. He got mad told me to shut the hell up and stormed off.

Feel bad for him, dude really needs to see the light...

Sadly this could have been me a few years ago
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hmm

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Well you cant expect him to see the light when you use that kind of approach.

1. He has to be ready to be helped
2. Has to get the info from a reliable source (in his eyes).

Most people don't consider their friends a reliable source when it comes to huge issues like this. So perhaps directing him to some book or a youtube channel may be more effective.
 

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I agree with Hmm in that the person must want to be helped. The red pill is a tough pill to swallow for a lot of men, so it's best to just sit there, nod, and not say anything unless you are asked for help.

If you must say something, the most you can do is start off advice with preemptive phrases like "in my opinion ", and "what I think is going on is..." .

Other than that, your best bet is to just watch the train wreck.
 

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F*ck that guy dude, what kind of pathetic response is that which he gave? little baby can't handle his tantrums. No wonder she doesn't want to f*ck him.
 

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How long have you been working with him? Sorry dude, but if you were talking about my wife like that I'd hit you, regardles if it were true or not.

The supposed red pill shouldnt be shoved down peoples mouths, it should be come across naturally and slowly. Maybe if you chatted to your workmate and tried to help him come to the conclusion himself, instead of telling him hish wife is a cheating w.hore to his face, you'll get a better response.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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old_skoolrSorry dude said:
You probably wouldn't. Not many guys look at me and think its a good idea to engage me physically.
 

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marmel75 said:
You probably wouldn't. Not many guys look at me and think its a good idea to engage me physically.
That's nice. You're still a **** for talking to your coworker about his wife like that, tough guy. Some lines you shouldn't be crossing no matter how obvious it is. It's not your place.
 

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Partizan said:
That's nice. You're still a **** for talking to your coworker about his wife like that, tough guy. Some lines you shouldn't be crossing no matter how obvious it is. It's not your place.
Then his coworker should sh*t the hell up about his wife too.
 

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The two issues herein:

1) The approach was wrong. But that's not unusual. I've made the same mistake myself when trying to talk to others about the (true) nature of reality, on many topics.

2) The two reasons why people have to want to become aware of said reality.

a) People don't like to think they've been duped; by the media, govt, marketeers, least of all by someone they love (and who claims to love them).

b) As has been alluded to, acceptance of red-pill reality is uncomfortable making; extremely uncomfortable making. And depressing. To see modern culture for all it's banality, repetition and blandness is probably the most bitter pill to swallow, probably more so than that of gender dynamics in my humble opinion. I was struggling with the concept of 'branding' only yesterday, seeing slightly 'differing' products for what they really are - essentially all the same, but in a different colour, shape, size and with a different badge.

Regards the OP, Rollo usually explains well enough and in a matter-of-fact pragmatic manner:

http://therationalmale.com/tag/nawalt/

http://therationalmale.com/category/hypergamy-2/page/3/
 

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Partizan said:
That's nice. You're still a **** for talking to your coworker about his wife like that, tough guy. Some lines you shouldn't be crossing no matter how obvious it is. It's not your place.
saying you would hit him is not that smart being him big or not, he could know how to fight enough for you don't even land a hit and you see the ground. and even if he didn't you would lose you work for it, with would be good getting earlier at home could mkae him get her with the "girlfriend".

problem here is the coworker was telling him his wife is "Busy" enough to not have sex with him, and spend a lot of money on weekends with "GirlFriends", with I bet he is the one paying. he did open himself for other people opnion on the time he complains about his love life to others.

he could have come with a better way to say his wife is cheating on him? yes he could, I would normally tell a history about a guy I know how was in the same case (yeah she was cheating him) or if you really wanted to see everything burn you could just tell him to make her a surprise and go visit her with her friends and bring lots of flowers, course that is if you are really hate the guy that much.

the best way is just to ignore and don't do nothing, wanting or not its not your problem, so you could or tell him to stop talking about his wife or just nod the smile and move on
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do you guys have many buddies who are married? I sure do. And this topic comes up all the time. Married guys complaining for whatever reason that their wives don't have sex with them enough.

Whatever the reason may be, it does not give you an excuse to call his wife a wh0re. That is not DJ behavior.
 
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