"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What are some good ways to become the center of attention in a group conversation that includes both guys and girls? Yesterday I went to Kings Dominion ( a theme park ) with a large group but when I was trying to join group convos there was always one or two guys that dominated the conversation and made everyone laugh, while I was just standing there quietly not knowing what to say.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a bad one on one conversationalist. I can usually keep a conversation flowing and make people laugh with funny stories and some jokes. But in the group I just couldn't think of anything to say cuz these guys were just coming up with joke after joke and acting stupid and getting all of the attention.

It was terrible. One of the guys even had the girl I was kind of in a relationship with clinging to his arm.

I did read the bible and the conversation guides, but I wasn't sure if those rules would apply because the guys there were making the girls laugh with all of these hilarious comments and I didn't think it'd be good to just pop in with a question or random comment.

Also, throughout the whole trip, the guys were physically teasing the girls throughout the whole trip but not in the way described in the bible (like they would hit them with stuffed animals, squeeze their cheeks, squeeze fat on their stomachs, etc) but they seemed to love it anyway. Is this another type of kino?
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yes, thos AMOGS, were doing exactly what they needed to do....They were C&Fing....making jokes and making fun of the girls. And when you said they threw stuffed animals and pinched their cheekes...this demonstrates higher value...wich in return they will respect you for. Sounds like they were using the bratty little sister technique....they probably didnt know they were though.

Study how they interact with the girls, notice their body language, and their tonality, and facial expressions. Try and mimmic that....and soon you will natuarly develop your own style.
 
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Yeah, it did seem like what they were doing was pretty effective. I was always scared to touch girls in the way they were doing (often hitting them lightly, pinching, etc) because i thought the girls would get mad. At first the girls did seem to get angry at them but later the girls end up hugging them and not even letting them go, so it must be having some effect. lol. but about the talking part... how would you handle that kind of group conversation? For example if you were at a theme park what would be some good situational stuff to say to get them laughing? For some reason I couldn't think of any...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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sometimes you just have to "plow", as TD says

you just jump in and talk, hijack the conversation. just be careful not to seem like an AW, but still be alpha.

another funny thing is to have your own "reality" and your "reality" has to be more fun than everyone elses reality


example: the whole group is talking about something, lets say the AMOG is talking about his pet pit bull. and the AMOG is stealing the spotlight from you.

you just randomly interrupt, maybe not even to the AMOG or the girl, maybe you just ignore them, as if they are boring, and you just start talking to one person in the group.

and you might make some funny joke, completely random and unrelated to the conversation. like you might say, "did you see Saturday Night Live? They had a ****ing hilarious skit with Napolean Dynamite"

and then you get one or 2 people interested in your story. and you just maybe do an impression of the skit, and get everyone laughing, and soon the whole group notices that you and the person you are talking to having a GREAT time, laughing.

and you make some inside jokes up with the new person. and everyone hears the inside jokes and gets jealous that they are not in on the joke, and they are jealous beacuse your "reality" seems more fun.

when that happens, the whole group will try to join your reality instead of the AMOG. you just have to make sure it is a more fun reality with inside jokes, crazy stories, fun and laughing.
 

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dude, i am the KING of becoming the center of attention in group convo's and i' m not goign to lie I don't think I do anythign to become it. I just think taht my friends kinda force me into the center lol. However be happy, unlike you, I'm HORRIBLE at one on one convo. Help me with that :p but yea to help you...tell a lot of stories get some luahgs and pretty much use some c + f to kind playfully make fun of girls and also kinda rag on your friends (in a funny kidding way)
 

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that was your cue to isolate one of the chicks you wanted, way to go tiger. :down:
 
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sometimes you just have to "plow", as TD says

you just jump in and talk, hijack the conversation. just be careful not to seem like an AW, but still be alpha.

another funny thing is to have your own "reality" and your "reality" has to be more fun than everyone elses reality


example: the whole group is talking about something, lets say the AMOG is talking about his pet pit bull. and the AMOG is stealing the spotlight from you.

you just randomly interrupt, maybe not even to the AMOG or the girl, maybe you just ignore them, as if they are boring, and you just start talking to one person in the group.

and you might make some funny joke, completely random and unrelated to the conversation. like you might say, "did you see Saturday Night Live? They had a ****ing hilarious skit with Napolean Dynamite"

and then you get one or 2 people interested in your story. and you just maybe do an impression of the skit, and get everyone laughing, and soon the whole group notices that you and the person you are talking to having a GREAT time, laughing.

and you make some inside jokes up with the new person. and everyone hears the inside jokes and gets jealous that they are not in on the joke, and they are jealous beacuse your "reality" seems more fun.

when that happens, the whole group will try to join your reality instead of the AMOG. you just have to make sure it is a more fun reality with inside jokes, crazy stories, fun and laughing.
Hmm... that sounds pretty good. So I should try to avoid trying to join the AMOG's conversation and become the center of attention myself. By the way what is an AW?

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
that was your cue to isolate one of the chicks you wanted, way to go tiger. :down:
I'm not sure what you mean by that., but ok
 
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