You can do a search on this site for all the debates that have taken place around the issue of being an employee vs. being an entrepreneur (starting your own business, investing to eventually be able to quit your job, etc.). How do you convince someone that working for yourself to eventually achieve financial independence is better than working for someone else and having them reap the fruits of your labor? How do you tell them to strive for more, to seek freedom rather than security? How do you tell them to
BE DARING .
Don Giovanni, I think you’ve gone off the other side of the “Be a Man” argument.
Social status is not a game that only "girls" play. In fact, I find that MEN have a greater use for social status than women. The Alpha Male in the herd MUST understand everyones standing, including his own, in order to maximise his herds potential, and to stay at the top. By definition, the Alpha Male is at the TOP of the social ladder. If someone is OFF the ladder, he's called a hermit.
Are you beast or man? If you are a man, then stop referring to yourself as livestock.
There is a difference between living in the cage that is social hierarchy and being social. Your social wellbeing in life is just as important as your physical wellbeing. Talk to girls, get their numbers and date them – but on your own terms.
You seem to want to be the ‘coolest guy’ in the room or the ‘Alpha Male’ of the group. Why? Presumably to maximize whatever it is you want – attention, ‘respect’ (hah!), women, etc. If you’re referring to attention, know that you’re letting other people decide your happiness for you. It doesn’t have to be this way. Your joy can be your own and it doesn’t have to be at the mercy of whatever scraps of attention some girl throws your way. And the respect you receive is really the respect you give yourself so if you take care of yourself, it’ll tend to itself.
But for the sake of women is probably the real reason you are so eager to figure out the hierarchy and climb the ladder. I’m going to let you in on a little secret then.
End Game.
There is something I realized over the years about DJing and getting the women and that is End Game. If you succeed as a Don Juan, you will reach End Game. Have you ever noticed that some guys can give great advice to other people for their relationships even though they might never have been in a similar situation? Where does this come from? Do you think every time they encounter a problem with a girl they rush to look up a solution for it in the DJ bible? Or do they post it on a dating forum and let the majority decide the future of their relationship? No, they don’t. What they know does not come from a specific ‘tip’ they read somewhere, but from a wisdom of life. This is End Game and at this point, you do know how to handle women appropriately and more importantly how to make yourself happy. But you won’t get there if you’re constantly trying to be ‘cool’ or ‘Alpha’ in order to impress some chick.
I find Vassago’s farewell post very enlightening:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=41291
If you don’t know, Vassago is one of the oldest posters on the board and was here when Anti-Dump was here too. He used to criticize/bash Anti-Dump and his ideas quite frequently. Notice Pook’s response.
Hitori’s article is good because it describes how women view and deal with social status. Whether one implements all the methods contained in that article to increase their social status is up to them. However, one shouldn’t be ignorant of reality.
Plato, a Greek philosopher told a story about a Cave. In the dark cave were men chained and forced to stare at a wall their entire lives with the only source of light coming from a small fire above them at a distance and out of sight. On the wall that the men were forced to stare at, shadows appeared frequently and the man who spotted and identified them the quickest was applauded by the rest. But one man was unchained and forced fighting into the sunlight and although dazed and confused, he realized that this was the real world. Here was freedom unknown and the shadows made by the fire exposed. The man was returned to his former position staring at the wall in the cave. The man being exposed to the truth could now spot and identify the shadows on the wall better than any man, because he had seen what caused the shadows. He could now easily become the most applauded and honored man in the cave, the man with the highest status.
No, I don’t believe people should be ignorant of reality. That is the reason I said this article is a perfect example of how you can get stuck in the game of hierarchy, because this article is an example that reveals (or unintentionally reveals). It is good to know what other people are saying, not in order to better play this game of hierarchy and learn how to bend yourself to impress some girl, but so that you can better open your mind and free yourself from it.
Mind you, the hierarchy of status is found everywhere, and not just in social circles. Politics? Military? Business?
Come now Maximus, use your sense. In politics, military, and business you will find
structured roles and ‘statuses’ that are
imposed. Who is to say what ‘status’ you occupy in life? Your friends? Or god forbid – some girl? You can get fired at a job if you step out of line with your boss. Is some girl going to fire you? Or will she just ‘demote’ you to ‘uncool’? Take control of your life and don’t let your joy be at the mercy of women.
Guys, you are the man in the cave who has been given the opportunity to walk in the sunlight. Who doesn’t feel their eyes have opened since coming here and have finally gotten a glimpse of the outside world after living in a dark cave for so long? You have been outside the cave and you have seen something few have. You have been outside every time you read an article and imagined something being possible in your life that wasn’t before. You are outside whenever you hear some guys telling you that you CAN live and love the way you want to – and for brief moment, you believed it.
