Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Great initial IL, I came on too strong, help me salvage please.

SmoothTalker

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Alright so I could use some help. I'm pretty sure I know what went wrong, and I have some idea about how I'll go about trying to fix it, but feedback will be good.

So, met this girl shortly before Christmas pretty randomly at University. From the beginning she was showing pretty strong interest, and I got the number no problem, as well as email (MSN). Aside from a brief chat after adding her on msn which she initated we didn't talk or hang out for the next 2-3 weeks because she was off on some trip for the holidays and I was busy with that girl who was only around temporarily (who I posted about not too long ago).

Anyway, when she comes back we make plans to meet up, which end up falling through by no fault of ours, though I suggest an alternative meet up a few days later that's well received. In the few days before that we have one or two quick, fun chats online, but nothing too serious.

Now, the date itself went well, we had fun, got some pretty heavy making out in, but I had to finish up sort of early. When dropping her off she said she had tons of fun and wanted to do it again, and I could tell it was sincere.

Now here's the part where I started messing up. After that date the next day I saw her on msn and thought I'd quickly hit her up to set up the next date ( I know I know bad call... what can you do it's done already). She was still interested enough to agree, and in fact suggested next Friday. However that would have been inconvenient for me so I asked to switch that to the preceding Monday.

Anyway long story short I do really like her, and despite my better judgement since then I've been chatting with her pretty regularly. I've noticed that she no longer initiates the conversations and doesn't have quite as much interest in them anymore. Also, she had to cancel our date today because she was sick, which from what I know may or may not be true. To be fair she did give me warning yesterday that she wasn't feeling well so at least it wasn't a last minute flake or standup. So, in other words, I've been too available, eager.

Realizing this, my approach so far has been to seem unaffected when she cancelled, in fact I said something along the lines of "Ok good, because something has come up and I didnt want to bail on you but I wasn't sure how I'd find time for everythign today anyway", and have not made any mention of rescheduling.

I'm also planning on not to her for at least 3-4 days, then calling just to set another date, no chit chat.

I am seeing some other girls in the mean time but she's currently the cream of the crop so I want to not drive her away.

Thoughts/tips/suggestions?

PS: She's rather hot and obviously accustomed to guys buying her things. What's the proper way to handle this on dates without coming across as cheap. I usually pay for first dates anyway if I ask them out (usually we don't do anything particularly pricey anyway), but it's always nice of them to at least make a gesture of offering to pay.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Just an add on question, I spend a fair bit of time logged on to MSN when I'm bored in class or to discuss assignments with other class mates.

Would it be better to let her see me online and just not initiate convo, or just block her?
 

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I've found MSN really kills the interest level. If I must use it, usually i block them, but then sometimes unblock them and let them initiate convo. But make sure you don't chat for too long and say you got to go.

I learned the hard way. I once initiated convo and chatted to a girl for hours every day for a week on MSN. In that week she went from high IL to LJBF. I thought I was "building a connection" but all she saw was a needy chump.
 

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Don't block her. All you have to do is NOT initiate contact, let her do it. Also, be the first to end the chat. Tell her you're busy etc.


If shes not as keen as she was at first it means her interest has dropped. I also get the feeling she was pretending to be sick. Maybe she sensed a date coming up?
 

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Well I have been ending chats first at least, though after longer than I should have, probaby.

As for pretending to be sick because she felt a date coming up, I'm not sure what you mean?

She didn't feel the date coming up, we already had it agred on and scheduled. This was the second date that she wanted for this Friday that I asked to move to today (Monday) when we originally set it up sometime mid last week.

I agree it seems like IL has dropped, I'm just wondering how much to pull back and/or if there is anything else I should do for damage control.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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