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There is this Asian dude that's going into the TTC (ie our transit system), that his intended purpose is to spread good vibes and joy by approaching people, sharing affirmations, sharing pizza, etc.....


It's an interesting video to watch as it does point to someone who has a good cold approach mindset.

Any comments about how he's approaching people, in particular women, and how they are responding to him?

I know in the 00s, there used to be allot of "bootcamp" threads that encouraged people to go out and cold approach. Here is something that looks so innoscent that it's very unlikely to draw ire or negative attention from ladies crying on instagram/youtube/tictok complaining about someone approaching them (ie if it does, it would look very shameful) . Asian guys as we heard, have some of the lowest SMV, but look at how he's navigating through and keeping social.
 

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Its a great concept I think the issue is most people are NPC's and are so heavily brainwashed and so "plugged in" they can't even comprehend what is happening when a stranger starts talking to them , most just default to "scam" or "Danger"

I mean at the start that guy was on the bus two young girls got on , I think he said something like " do you want a slice of pizza " they couldn't even compute what he was saying or if he was talking to them

They genuinely look completely out of it

I've noticed this myself , I may strike up conversation and sometimes it can take a good few seconds for the other person to even realised I'm talking to them

Like we need to wait for the simulation to load or something

Not everyone is like this but It is getting worse especially in the younger generations , Gen Z seem the worst for it

If we are not careful as a society the art of conversation is going to die
 

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That was cringe. If he wasn't so non-threatening, someone would call the cops. Where I live, everyone has a gun and a concealed carry permit. No one bothers strangers like that, because if they feel intimidated, they reach for their handgun.
 

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That was cringe. If he wasn't so non-threatening, someone would call the cops. Where I live, everyone has a gun and a concealed carry permit. No one bothers strangers like that, because if they feel intimidated, they reach for their handgun.
Good point. If a Black guy dressed with a hooded seater did the same thing...would the response be the same?

By the way, he did get some good remarks from the ladies. The first one said something nice back to him in reponse to that.
I wouldn't say it's cringe, with the right lady, or he would be doing this for so long or getting good feedback.
 

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Its a great concept I think the issue is most people are NPC's and are so heavily brainwashed and so "plugged in" they can't even comprehend what is happening when a stranger starts talking to them , most just default to "scam" or "Danger"

I mean at the start that guy was on the bus two young girls got on , I think he said something like " do you want a slice of pizza " they couldn't even compute what he was saying or if he was talking to them

They genuinely look completely out of it

I've noticed this myself , I may strike up conversation and sometimes it can take a good few seconds for the other person to even realised I'm talking to them

Like we need to wait for the simulation to load or something

Not everyone is like this but It is getting worse especially in the younger generations , Gen Z seem the worst for it

If we are not careful as a society the art of conversation is going to die
That is true. I have the same problem too. If he offered me free pizza, I would wonder what is this pizza laced with, lol, or save it for someone else who is really hungry and down on their luck. Accepting food from pure strangers is still risky in its own right. Suppose someone spit on the pizza or did some sort of prank? Especially with all the proliferation of prank videos, honestly, I may even think there is a camera somewhere and I'm being recorded to test my reaction for being offered a free pizza.

A lady at court waved at me. I wouln't think she's waving at me. I look behind and there is no one else there she could be waving too. But the automatic assumption (ie oh there must be another guy behind me or something, women just don't behave like that with me, etc....)
 

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I mean at the start that guy was on the bus two young girls got on , I think he said something like " do you want a slice of pizza " they couldn't even compute what he was saying or if he was talking to them

They genuinely look completely out of it
It’s hard to blame them. If you’re approached by a stranger in a big city these days, 99% of the time it’s a scam, robbery attempt, homeless people asking for money, crazy people rambling about some nonsense, etc. Even the subject of this video has ulterior motives. He’s doing it to create viral content for his monetized social media accounts.

I remember this one time I was walking downtown wearing a business suit and a very attractive girl in her 20’s approached me, said that she liked my suit and asked me where I got it. I was kind of taken by surprise because attractive women never approach anyone, let alone random people on the street. My first thought was that she was trying to sell something. And sure enough, after exchanging a few words, she said that she designs menswear and wanted to give me her business card.
 

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There is this Asian dude that's going into the TTC (ie our transit system), that his intended purpose is to spread good vibes and joy by approaching people, sharing affirmations, sharing pizza, etc.....
Sharing pizza?

Its a great concept I think the issue is most people are NPC's and are so heavily brainwashed and so "plugged in" they can't even comprehend what is happening when a stranger starts talking to them , most just default to "scam" or "Danger"
I just watched a bit of it, but I think most of those people are just pretending to be zoned out so that the guy would leave them alone. I mean he's literally going from person to person telling each one that they're "one in a million" or whatever. I'd be thinking, move on buddy, spare me your platitudes. The problem is that he's basically spamming everybody, and he's using the same line on everyone. It doesn't look natural, it looks weird. Genuine conversation is if you strike up a conversation with the person next to you - it isn't you running from person to person to everybody on the train saying the same canned line.
 

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I think most of those people are just pretending to be zoned out so that the guy would leave them alone. I mean he's literally going from person to person telling each one that they're "one in a million" or whatever. I'd be thinking, move on buddy, spare me your platitudes. The problem is that he's basically spamming everybody, and he's using the same line on everyone. It doesn't look natural, it looks weird. Genuine conversation is if you strike up a conversation with the person next to you - it isn't you running from person to person to everybody on the train saying the same canned line.
I'm more interested in the response of the first young lady he spoke to in the bus. The issue is that he was able to talk to them, out of the blue and got a decent response back. Who cares about the other people. They are just warming up exercises for the real cold approach. Those are the exercises where the nervous system gets more relaxed because you are not getting extreme negative outcomes for simple approaches from anyone. Obviously if he just targetted women period, people would say it's pick-up and start calling him out on it. He's doing it to everyone to avoid that profile. The real issue is how are the hot / decently looking women responding to him, and if he pursued it further, would they have given him their number? He is getting positive media attention what is foudnational pick-up inner game work.
 

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I’m not sure about his mindset per se, but from the short video loop I was able to see, this comes across as cringe AF. The reason being is that one can make an argument that high-value men do not give their attention away for free. The main issue here is that his attention isn’t selective when compliments and attention are given to everyone, they start to feel cheap, nor focused or individualized. In social situations, attention has value when it’s earned or directed intentionally, not handed out indiscriminately.

Also, in my third-world country of origin, people with limited resources go on buses to resell candy, play music, or tell a sob story to make ends meet. In this case, it feels like the same thing, except instead of currency, what’s being exchanged is validation, reactions, and social approval. That’s why it can come across as awkward or cringey since the reward is so insignificant.
 

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I’m not sure about his mindset per se, but from the short video loop I was able to see, this comes across as cringe AF. The reason being is that one can make an argument that high-value men do not give their attention away for free. The main issue here is that his attention isn’t selective when compliments and attention are given to everyone, they start to feel cheap, nor focused or individualized. In social situations, attention has value when it’s earned or directed intentionally, not handed out indiscriminately.

Also, in my third-world country of origin, people with limited resources go on buses to resell candy, play music, or tell a sob story to make ends meet. In this case, it feels like the same thing, except instead of currency, what’s being exchanged is validation, reactions, and social approval. That’s why it can come across as awkward or cringey since the reward is so insignificant.
The fact he is approaching guys and arguably unattractive women (ie not the ones most guys would want to approach) sort of means that he is training himself to see women as people rather than something to be pedistalized and as long as there is no difference in how he is approaching a hot attractive in-demand, high SMV woman, compared to a dude or another gal, means that he is seeing women as people.
As long as the cring is equal with ALL people, and not just hot women then that's a pass since it doesn't point to pedistalizing of hot women.
He is not spending 10 min deciding on what opening lines he's going to say or how a woman is going to react. It's just another person with him.

The real question, is there any change or variation in his approach when he is dealing with hot women, or is it exactly the same all over the place? If it is exactly the same, then he's mastered the inner game of treating women as people, not as pre-madonnas on a pedistle whose crap doesn't stink.
 

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The fact he is approaching guys and arguably unattractive women (ie not the ones most guys would want to approach) sort of means that he is training himself to see women as people rather than something to be pedistalized and as long as there is no difference in how he is approaching a hot attractive in-demand, high SMV woman, compared to a dude or another gal, means that he is seeing women as people.
As long as the cring is equal with ALL people, and not just hot women then that's a pass since it doesn't point to pedistalizing of hot women.
He is not spending 10 min deciding on what opening lines he's going to say or how a woman is going to react. It's just another person with him.

The real question, is there any change or variation in his approach when he is dealing with hot women, or is it exactly the same all over the place? If it is exactly the same, then he's mastered the inner game of treating women as people, not as pre-madonnas on a pedistle whose crap doesn't stink.
This doesn't even make sense. The object of approaching a woman is to get a result. This would be like saying as long as a salesperson sucks at getting sales equally between men and women then he is doing a great job.
 

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This doesn't even make sense. The object of approaching a woman is to get a result. This would be like saying as long as a salesperson sucks at getting sales equally between men and women then he is doing a great job.
The topic of the thread is about mindset.

Lets indulge your analogy. A salesperson who fails to try, and lets say, lives under a rock and does nothing will not be successful.

Or you miss 100% of the shots you do not take.

Therefore, if you don't try at all, then you will lose.

If you have a bad mindset, you won't try because the effort won't be worth it because you already know you are going to lose.

If you get rejected on one or two approaches, you feel bad, then you stop doing it and move on to something else.

That is being outcome dependent. That means the outcome determines if you'll continue trying or throw in the towel, whether you see yourself as successful or a failure.

This guy does not look outcome dependent at all. That is because he treats each approach like it's nothing, just people.

A mindset that keeps you doing approaches is better than one that allows you to quit before the yes.
 

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The topic of the thread is about mindset.

Lets indulge your analogy. A salesperson who fails to try, and lets say, lives under a rock and does nothing will not be successful.

Or you miss 100% of the shots you do not take.

Therefore, if you don't try at all, then you will lose.

If you have a bad mindset, you won't try because the effort won't be worth it because you already know you are going to lose.

If you get rejected on one or two approaches, you feel bad, then you stop doing it and move on to something else.

That is being outcome dependent. That means the outcome determines if you'll continue trying or throw in the towel, whether you see yourself as successful or a failure.

This guy does not look outcome dependent at all. That is because he treats each approach like it's nothing, just people.

A mindset that keeps you doing approaches is better than one that allows you to quit before the yes.
Well yeah, I agree with that, but at some point continuing to do approaches only matters if you improve and start getting results.
 

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The fact he is approaching guys and arguably unattractive women (ie not the ones most guys would want to approach) sort of means that he is training himself to see women as people rather than something to be pedistalized and as long as there is no difference in how he is approaching a hot attractive in-demand, high SMV woman, compared to a dude or another gal, means that he is seeing women as people.
As long as the cring is equal with ALL people, and not just hot women then that's a pass since it doesn't point to pedistalizing of hot women.
He is not spending 10 min deciding on what opening lines he's going to say or how a woman is going to react. It's just another person with him.

The real question, is there any change or variation in his approach when he is dealing with hot women, or is it exactly the same all over the place? If it is exactly the same, then he's mastered the inner game of treating women as people, not as pre-madonnas on a pedistle whose crap doesn't stink.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at, but I’m sure there are more efficient and effective ways of seeing “hot women as people” than complimenting strangers and offering free stuff for nothing they’ve done, don’t you think?
 

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I'm more interested in the response of the first young lady he spoke to in the bus. The issue is that he was able to talk to them, out of the blue and got a decent response back. Who cares about the other people. They are just warming up exercises for the real cold approach.
Eh, I get what you're saying, but it shouldn't be necessary to spam everybody on the train just to talk to some girl.
 

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I bet 50% of the women he approaches label him as creepy or autistic and 100% small wang energy.
 

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The girls.are following these dudes:


This is what Mystery Method would call Peacocking. You have a an intereting looking instrument and carry a wierd contraption and then you stand out and girls notice that.

But that is not for everyone. Cold approaching still trains you to take action rather than passively being chased by a large number of women.
 

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Coldplay sounds like the kind of music every simp would write to serenade girls after getting dumped by 'jerks' crying their eyes out.

every one of their songs sounds the same: overly emotive, endless epsilon vibes; sh!tband, simp pop softer than cottonelle.
 
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