"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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bud_2005

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Would it be a little odd to out of nowhere grab her hand from across the table and complement her ring. Or her nails. I want to add more kino to my game but I don't want it to be a completely weird when I'm doing it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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it's not weird at all if you act like its nothing special...just try and act like its a normal thing and soon it will become normal.
 

TonyTheTigerOI

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why compliment her hand as an excuse to hold her hand? Why not lean across the table, interrupt her in mid sentance to tell her you think shes absolutely adorable, take her hand, tell her to finish what she was saying, and then compliment her ring and keep holding her hand without an excuse?

Because that'd get you layed, and who wants that?
 

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Whatever you do, make sure it looks and more importantly FEELS natural. Otherwise, it's just going to be awkward for both of you.

Take her hand and maybe look at her ring(if she has one)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by TonyTheTigerOI
why compliment her hand as an excuse to hold her hand? Why not lean across the table, interrupt her in mid sentance to tell her you think shes absolutely adorable, take her hand, tell her to finish what she was saying, and then compliment her ring and keep holding her hand without an excuse?

Because that'd get you layed, and who wants that?
I'm going to try this. Tony, 1 question for you. Does this have to be a date? Or whenever I feel like it.
 
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