"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Grabbed Her Phone Number When She Asked About My Masonic Ring

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So I was at the mall today when a girl and her friend approached me in a store and asked me about my ring.

I smiled and said "I hate when that's the first question someone asks me"

Too which she asked why?

And I said "People sometimes mistake me for a mysterious person and that ring isn't something I discuss with everyone"

Then I asked her about a weird necklace she had and commented on the other ones dreadlocked hair.


I wasn't all to excited about getting their numbers. Two eights or nines maybe but I just wasn't feeling right today, had an off day and although my personality fluctuates this is an example of what I call "turning myself off" which actually has seemed to work with girls a lot.

I said, "off day, I don't feel like grabbing any numbers right now but I'll give you mine and let u two fight over it"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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wow, its like you are so amazing you don't even have to try. Super models just go after you. You get a gold star. HA, giving them your number because you are so mysterious they will fight over it? Who are you mysterious stranger? It also doesn't surprise me your name is Dante.
 

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SuSHI said:
wow, its like you are so amazing you don't even have to try. Super models just go after you. You get a gold star. HA, giving them your number because you are so mysterious they will fight over it? Who are you mysterious stranger? It also doesn't surprise me your name is Dante.
I wouldn't consider myself mysterious, girls just think too much:up:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Are you worthy and well-qualified?
 

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I was speaking "Masonic slang"...I thought as a guy wearing a Masonic ring, you too would be a Mason, and know what I was talking about.

You are a Mason, aren't you?
 

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Dude, I was being sarcastic. I think most male jewelry makes you look like a dirty strip club owner. I don't see the reason for your "giving them your number" and not caring about the whole deal, yet go out of your way to retell us this story.

A common symptom of some of the people on this forum is they love to show off, by making themselves seem like such the Alpha male that they wish they were. But if you think about it, people with inner confidence never show off. Not even passively through the retelling of a story.

Which leaves me to think, did they even ask for your number? Or were you just too scared to ask for theirs and left yours instead. This is not meant to be an attack on you, but I hate it when people try to subtly tell the world that they are "the sh!t", oh ahem...I mean a "mysterious person".
 

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SuSHI said:
Dude, I was being sarcastic. I think most male jewelry makes you look like a dirty strip club owner. I don't see the reason for your "giving them your number" and not caring about the whole deal, yet go out of your way to retell us this story.

A common symptom of some of the people on this forum is they love to show off, by making themselves seem like such the Alpha male that they wish they were. But if you think about it, people with inner confidence never show off. Not even passively through the retelling of a story.

Which leaves me to think, did they even ask for your number? Or were you just too scared to ask for theirs and left yours instead. This is not meant to be an attack on you, but I hate it when people try to subtly tell the world that they are "the sh!t", oh ahem...I mean a "mysterious person".
All the world is a mirror.

And all the hating you are doing on the OP only serves to further establish his superiority over you, for how else could it be?

Something about his tone bothers you. It reminds you of what you are not (confident, charming,etc.) and you are compelled to attack him. "You think you are more Alpha than me?! Fvck you!!" Pathetic.

I cannot go ANYWHERE without seeing guys like you hating on me. But, as crazy as it sounds, I have reached the point in my growth where I realize that the more haters I have, THE BETTER. I have done nothing to these strangers, but my mere existence reminds them of what they are not. And why should they work on improving themselves, when it's so much easier to rationalize their inferiority by hating on me. Again, pathetic.

Wake up and smell what you're really shoveling here.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This sounds like a really bad episode of "House"...

"Well I know you're not thinking that, because if you WERE thinking that, then you wouldn't have done it in the first place, but you DID, so that leads me to think that you ACTUALLY meant to do this, and because I am so incredibly amazing...." etc
 

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SuSHI said:
Dude, I was being sarcastic. I think most male jewelry makes you look like a dirty strip club owner. I don't see the reason for your "giving them your number" and not caring about the whole deal, yet go out of your way to retell us this story.

A common symptom of some of the people on this forum is they love to show off, by making themselves seem like such the Alpha male that they wish they were. But if you think about it, people with inner confidence never show off. Not even passively through the retelling of a story.

Which leaves me to think, did they even ask for your number? Or were you just too scared to ask for theirs and left yours instead. This is not meant to be an attack on you, but I hate it when people try to subtly tell the world that they are "the sh!t", oh ahem...I mean a "mysterious person".

Just a report, common practice around here.

Do you have a problem asking for a number or something?
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
I was speaking "Masonic slang"...I thought as a guy wearing a Masonic ring, you too would be a Mason, and know what I was talking about.

You are a Mason, aren't you?
I'm not, I'm close to being and I understand what your referring to. I'm not 18 for a few more months. How did I get the ring you might ask? :cool:
 

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Dante420 said:
Just a report, common practice around here.

Do you have a problem asking for a number or something?
how did you get that from what I wrote? I never give my number to a girl because it is useless.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SuSHI said:
how did you get that from what I wrote? I never give my number to a girl because it is useless.

You seemed quick to jump to a conclusion and although I don't know if this is the case, usually that indicates some level of insecurity.

I've been contacted plenty of times after giving my phone number out. That brings a few memories to mind, not to mention a girl who took down my number today and contacted me.
 
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