"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Gotta vent - Thinks im being used

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Ive been talking to this girl for 3 months now. She kept saying she wanted to hang out, I planned to go out to her, which I never do. They always come to me.

She cancelled twice on me and I ceased contact with her. I called her. Told her we needed to talk, we made up. Then it happened again. I cut of contact again because she wouldn't even come out to see me when I was willing to go see her.

Im getting pissed here. She has a birthday party in 2 weeks. If she doesnt invite me, im done forever. I feel like im being used, even though we talk to each other and tell each other alot of things.

Part of me is pissed at my self because I got game and I pick up girls easy. I feel like I needed someone to talk to, especially at night. She was just there.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Oh man, you're fvcked.

You have to let this idiot broad dangle. Cut her off.

Which is more hurtful in the long-run? Her keeping you on her back burner whenever she needs a fix of attention, or you telling her to go fvck herself?

Which ending will give you confidence and set an example for your future?
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Oh man, you're fvcked.

You have to let this idiot broad dangle. Cut her off.

Which is more hurtful in the long-run? Her keeping you on her back burner whenever she needs a fix of attention, or you telling her to go fvck herself?

Which ending will give you confidence and set an example for your future?
Thanks bro, love u too lol...

Seriousness, believe me I know. I have 2-3 girls to my house weekly. With this one, it became a habit to talk to her every night just bc I felt like I needed someone.

Its more then fix for attention, its a habit for both of us. I use her to a degree too when I need my fix, im guilty of it. At the same time, me and her together can run rooms, rule the world, easily.

Ive told her to f*ck her self before too. But yet we still keep talking. Its almost childish in a way for me to keep doing that every time she pissed me off, I feel like im running. Which isnt me.

She knows I wont take ****. Nor does she.

Im going to give it two weeks. If she doesn't invite me to her birthday party(yes i sound like im 5, lol), shes done with for good. Taken off Facebook and my phone. Thats it, she'll be just another one of my wh*res. Nothing special.
 

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This is why I like the 2strike rule. Less heart ache, unless in special circumstances. However, in your case your girl just sound like an AW.
 

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Um, why do you need someone to talk to at night?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Htienvu said:
This is why I like the 2strike rule. Less heart ache, unless in special circumstances. However, in your case your girl just sound like an AW.
Exact rule I follow. Sometimes not that easy tho

Um, why do you need someone to talk to at night?
I get bored. Plus like I said became a habit
 

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How do you know this girl? Is this one of those internet things where you spent 3 months chatting with a girl you never met?
 

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I fell right into the trap I know and I can see it. Now its time to get out. and lol at the jokes, keep em coming.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Oh man, you're fvcked.

You have to let this idiot broad dangle. Cut her off.

Which is more hurtful in the long-run? Her keeping you on her back burner whenever she needs a fix of attention, or you telling her to go fvck herself?

Which ending will give you confidence and set an example for your future?
i was going to reply but KS just said everything you need to do
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Danger said:
This is just another thread in the long list of reasons to choose self-respect over pvssy.
Believe me I know bro. Like I said ive been having 2-3 girls over a week and im still not truly happy. It was something I needed to go through to realize certain things on my own.
 

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Why are you 'talking' (on the phone late at night) to a girl you're INTERESTED in about 'stuff'??? Are you trying to put yourself in the friend zone? You should be focusing on building attraction/interest...not talking about your 'feelings'. Poorly played my friend, poorly played.

Don't give up too much of yourself before theres even a relationship. Even if you have game, and get women..it sounds like you might have a slight case of oneitis for this one? You need to remain composed..especially when its hard. Getting too 'talky' about feelings and **** early in a relationship is BAAAAD.

Relationships should be FUN and INTERESTING in the very early stages. Sounds like you skipped a bunch of steps with this one. Always try to keep things light, fun and interesting for ATLEAST the first few months (3-6). And NEVER talk too much about feelings with a woman you're seeing/interested in unless she brings it up first. I realize NEVER is black and white, and things never are black and white...but you REALLY REALLY need to use discretion early in a relationship.

Sometimes less is more my friend.
 

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BadNews said:
Why are you 'talking' (on the phone late at night) to a girl you're INTERESTED in about 'stuff'??? Are you trying to put yourself in the friend zone? You should be focusing on building attraction/interest...not talking about your 'feelings'. Poorly played my friend, poorly played.

Don't give up too much of yourself before theres even a relationship. Even if you have game, and get women..it sounds like you might have a slight case of oneitis for this one? You need to remain composed..especially when its hard. Getting too 'talky' about feelings and **** early in a relationship is BAAAAD.

Relationships should be FUN and INTERESTING in the very early stages. Sounds like you skipped a bunch of steps with this one. Always try to keep things light, fun and interesting for ATLEAST the first few months (3-6). And NEVER talk too much about feelings with a woman you're seeing/interested in unless she brings it up first. I realize NEVER is black and white, and things never are black and white...but you REALLY REALLY need to use discretion early in a relationship.

Sometimes less is more my friend.
You hit the nail on the head bro
 
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