"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Got thrown off Guard, need help

Precursor

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I'll keep this short and hopefully easy to read.

I really like this girl. We went on two dates (ice skate and basketball) on 2 separate occasions over a period of 3 months. They both went really well. (yes, i have oneitis). We also bond well via kino.

Lately, Theres this guy who's been all over her. I'm not gonna lie, he looks better than me (not that it should matter much, right?). At first, i thought it was nothing cause i'm a pretty cool guy myself (DJ mind set). Today, the 3 of us were in the same scene and towards the end she starts saying crap out of no where.

"Hey precursor, can i step on you?"
"Your like my brother, i can do whatever i want to you"

This totally threw me off guard. I have no idea where the hell this came from. What the fk was she trying to do? Impress the other guy? In my mind, i already know the solution...

But i need you guys to help reinforce it. What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Shocker

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That's fvcking bull****. I don't know why anyone would put up with that. Next time she says something like that say "go ahead, I'll just biatch slap you till you cry in retaliation." That's what this biatch deserves. What a hor.
 

Michele l'Arcangelo

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helll nahhh man...

thats some messed up ****.

don't do the same **** to her... just don't talk to her anymore

next time she does that... give her one of those half-smile "what? are you serious?" kind of face.

don't let it get to you in front of her... without words or angry expressions... make that b*itch know you two will never talk again after that night...

finish THAT night as best as you can... the most fun you can make it...

then next time she wants to go out you're going to decline with something like "nah i don't feel like it anymore"... she'll be the loser when she finds out she messed up for saying those to you.

if she ends up with him in the end... not your loss, it's better now than if she's WITH you.
 

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The Shocker and Michele, 'Arcangelo,

I want to give you guys major props for your advice. AFter making it clear I didn't like what she did, i told her i'm done taking her crap and i'm not talking to her anymore. I walked away. She follows me and her face is really depressed, and she apologizes. I walked away.

I had the most fun i could the rest of the day at school.

Afterschool, we are in the same club. I completely ignore her. She is still depressed (about me, i assume). Towards the end as we were about to be dismissed, she walks up to me. I look to notice she walks up, and then i walk away from her. She follows, and gives a very sincere apology. I reply with "I need some time away from you" and i walk away, once again.

With her, i forgot what i aspired to be. To live like a DJ. It feels good to be back on track. As for my her, i still like her. But i don't need her. That feeling is gone. THank you!!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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