ok got the number now what ? Call or txt her and what to say just the old boring old want to catch up when your free ? I find its Too needy?, also I try to avoid weekends to meet up because means I'm too avadaible ? What's your take guys ?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Got the number is it better to text or call ?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
MrWood
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Thursday night text her for a date Friday
"I want to ask you out for a drink Friday, at 8 ok"
never ever ask "when you are free" or "sometime". "are you free this weekend"
Catch up? WTF? yes impress her with old shlt... nothing new, no anticipation, blablabla
Assume they are always free and want to meet you.
"I want to ask you out for a drink Friday, at 8 ok"
never ever ask "when you are free" or "sometime". "are you free this weekend"
Catch up? WTF? yes impress her with old shlt... nothing new, no anticipation, blablabla
Assume they are always free and want to meet you.
I used to be a phone guy. But making conversation with a stranger is just too annoying and it's giving them more opportunity to screen you out for some random thought they had. It's also more investment from your side which would be better spent chasing other girls
RangerMIke
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Depends... in my experience older women (40 yo and up) prefer a phone call. Younger like texting better. I have few flakes with younger women I text, it gives them time to make an excuse if they don't want to go out with you. You call them up, put them on the spot, they'll say yes, then their cat has a panic attack, 30 minutes before you pick her up.
I'd much rather a women just flat out tell me she's 'busy', rather than flake on me at the last minute. You know where you stand right away then you can move on. Older women are used to saying no to men over the phone, since when they were teenagers, that's what they did.... younger women were raised with cell phones, messaging, and email.... they don't know how to handle it. It took me a while... and I only really learned this in the last year.
But if you text a woman and ask her out, and she doesn't get back with you in a reasonable amount of time, assume it's a no and move on. For God's sake do not start texting her for an answer. You ask once... wait for a response, if it's more than a day, make other plans.
I'd much rather a women just flat out tell me she's 'busy', rather than flake on me at the last minute. You know where you stand right away then you can move on. Older women are used to saying no to men over the phone, since when they were teenagers, that's what they did.... younger women were raised with cell phones, messaging, and email.... they don't know how to handle it. It took me a while... and I only really learned this in the last year.
But if you text a woman and ask her out, and she doesn't get back with you in a reasonable amount of time, assume it's a no and move on. For God's sake do not start texting her for an answer. You ask once... wait for a response, if it's more than a day, make other plans.
Tictac
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I think that calling is more direct. Voice mail is a pain. Bit if you have a distilled idea of a VM you'll leave if you have to, it still comes off as direct.
Either way, electronic communications are for setting up dates. Not puking your feelings, just keeping in touch or trying to pretend that you are busy.
Either way, electronic communications are for setting up dates. Not puking your feelings, just keeping in touch or trying to pretend that you are busy.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Do you see how your quoted questions surrender you into HER frame? Worried about her impressions of, and how she perceives, you?
Here is the deeper element of your thinking that you need to work on. Frankly, the medium used to communicate is irrelevant.
EyeBRollin
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I always call unless she texts first. If she sends me a text, I'll make the date through text right then and there.
Don't respond to text messages until you have a definite time and place in mind.
Don't respond to text messages until you have a definite time and place in mind.
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It's not that serious.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.