"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've been seeing this girl and we've slept together a few times... Today, in bed, I got asked, "How may girls have I been with?" and "Why won't I be her friend on Facebook?"

How many girls question...

Here's how I handled it - would love to know if you think this was handled properly... (using ****y-funny attitude)

Me: "I don't tell that."
Her: "More or less than 20?"
Me: "I have some freedom of information forms in the car - you could fill one out and get your answer in 20 years."
Her: "Don't you want to know how many guys I've been with?"
Me: "No."

Facebook question...

Her: "Why won't you be my friend on FB?"
Me: "I already have enough friends."
Her: "Ha ha... Seriously?"
Me: "I've got nothing to hide, but I need my life and you need yours. You don't need to see my stuff and I don't need to see yours."

I played these off with some humor and mystery, not begin an as5hole, but firm about it.

Handled well? What would you suggest?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Good enough.
 

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Tell her the last girl you friended on FB stalked you for six months.
 

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Answer to first question: 2
Answer to second question: I'm not on FaceBook.

Both with a sheepish, sh!t-eating grin. :D

Do NOT underestimate the power of a smile. :D
 

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Iron Rule of Tomassi # 2

NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonsetly reveal the number of women you've slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.

The single most disastrous AFC move a man can make is to OVERTLY describe past sexual experiences and/or give a number (accurate or not) to how many women he's been with prior to the one he's with. This simple act, whether you offered the information or she dragged it out of you, ALWAYS comes off as pretensiousness and is often the catalyst for an avalanche of emotional resentment, if not outright emotional blackmail from an insecure woman. This is a rookie mistake that will only take you once to learn.

If a woman puts you on the spot by directly asking you for this information always sidestep this COVERTLY. C&F works wonders in this situation and still keeps the air of mystery and challenge about you.

Her: "So how many girls have you been with?"
You: "You're my first actually"
Her: "Really, how many girls have you been with?"
You:" You mean tonight?"
Her: "C'mon, how many girls have you been with?"
You: "You know, I really lost count after 50" (or something outrageous).

When a woman asks you this question she is seeking confirmation of what she already suspects - NEVER give her this satisfaction. When a woman resorts to OVERT communication (COVERT being her native language) she's generally exhausted her patience to be COVERT and this is a desperation tactic for an insecure woman.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I honestly don't keep track, so I couldn't tell her many girls I've been with even if I wanted to.
 

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I give these 2 honest answers and don't elaborate. Never seemed to fail.

1. Too many to remember.
2. Don't have aim, myspace, twitter, facebook or whever else that kids are doing these days.
 

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RT's answer(s) are better than yours was Poker. Not just because of the C&F, but also because those answers come across as apathetic. If you give any sort of long/drawn out answer, then it sounds like either you care too much that you were asked that, or that you are hiding something, or like RT suggested that you're bragging.

TBH, that question is a classic sh*ttest question.
 

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azanon said:
TBH, that question is a classic sh*ttest question.
True...the question is not, "How many women have you slept with?", it's more, "How do YOU feel about the number of women you've slept with?" Or rather, "Am I special? Or just another notch in your bedpost?"

There's no good answer to it. Say she's "special" and it makes you look spineless. Say she's not, and it makes you look heartless.

I've always like the classic, "A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell" as well. ;)
 

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Thanks guys... RT, I did actually respond with "Your my first" and a smile, but she pushed it and continued to ask. I'm not afraid of walking if she keeps it up.

I already know she has at least one other guy in the mix, but she doesnt know i know. Treading lightly with this one as my gut doesnt like her already.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I liked the "freedom of information" line. More clever than most C&F lines.

PokerInTheRear said:
I've been seeing this girl and we've slept together a few times... Today, in bed, I got asked, "How may girls have I been with?" and "Why won't I be her friend on Facebook?"

How many girls question...

Here's how I handled it - would love to know if you think this was handled properly... (using ****y-funny attitude)

Me: "I don't tell that."
Her: "More or less than 20?"
Me: "I have some freedom of information forms in the car - you could fill one out and get your answer in 20 years."
Her: "Don't you want to know how many guys I've been with?"
Me: "No."

Facebook question...

Her: "Why won't you be my friend on FB?"
Me: "I already have enough friends."
Her: "Ha ha... Seriously?"
Me: "I've got nothing to hide, but I need my life and you need yours. You don't need to see my stuff and I don't need to see yours."

I played these off with some humor and mystery, not begin an as5hole, but firm about it.

Handled well? What would you suggest?
 

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HER: "How many girls have you been with?"

YOU: "I have an idea, lets ƒuck and then you can tell me how many girls you think I've been with, OK?"
 

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I never volunteer that number to any chick. Just as I never ask any girl about any of her ex's.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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PokerInTheRear said:
I've been seeing this girl and we've slept together a few times... Today, in bed, I got asked, "How may girls have I been with?" and "Why won't I be her friend on Facebook?"

How many girls question...

Here's how I handled it - would love to know if you think this was handled properly... (using ****y-funny attitude)

Me: "I don't tell that."
Her: "More or less than 20?"
Me: "I have some freedom of information forms in the car - you could fill one out and get your answer in 20 years."
Her: "Don't you want to know how many guys I've been with?"
Me: "No."

Facebook question...

Her: "Why won't you be my friend on FB?"
Me: "I already have enough friends."
Her: "Ha ha... Seriously?"
Me: "I've got nothing to hide, but I need my life and you need yours. You don't need to see my stuff and I don't need to see yours."

I played these off with some humor and mystery, not begin an as5hole, but firm about it.

Handled well? What would you suggest?

Aloof, evasive, mysterious. It gets the job done, maintains your privacy, and kicks her attraction up a notch. Just remember that when they pull this sort of stuff to treat it as a **** test. My favorite three methods of dealing **** tests are:

1. Change the subject
2. Ignore
3. Agree & amplify to absurdity <--this is the funnest IMO and there are several examples already given in this thread
 
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