"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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DonutMan

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Hung out with my buddy and his 2-18 yr old neighbors. We all ended up getting hammered. Got into two seperate bedrooms with the girls. This chick was making out with me and groping me all night long, then we got down to just panties and boxers in her bedroom and she refused to do anything. She told me that she "didnt know me well enough" and that she just wanted to sleep with me. I talked to her for like 15 minutes after that, gave her my number (cause she asked for it) then bailed. I told her I didnt want to sleep with her cause I didnt know her well enough, and wouldnt be able to sleep in her bed. She called and texted the next day, but I didnt respond cause she annoyed me. She wasnt a virgin, any ideas as to why she would be such a tease?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I Should also add that I was lowering my standards on this one, LOL... She wasnt ugly, but she was a little chubby.
 

YoungSir4sho

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Next her, especially shince u had to lower ur standards automatic next. In the future stay n less talkin n more action she will eventually fet into it jus do more foreplay
 

The Deacon

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She bailed after she gave you her number? This isn't an IOD, you're probably misinterpreting the subcommunication here. Besides, she texted you the next day. She's definitely interested.

I'm more about quality than quantity, though. I'd rather go half a year without kissing any girls than kiss a girl I'm not attracted to. Please don't lower your standards.

=)
 

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dude! that was some non-afc sh*t if im reading that correctly. very smooth... she said she didnt want to do more because she didn't know you well enough so you said you didn't want to sleep with her saying the same thing hahaha cracks me up.. if your down for it get to know her a little better and seal the deal my brotha! you got this in the bag

and i learned something recently, even if a girl says no that doesn't always mean no.. if its a serious no and you can tell then take it as a no but if its a no in playful way, keep going.. (replace the word no with the words she used)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Randallpink83

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dude this is just simply last minute rejection... its so fvckin common bro, and its easily delt with.

one thing, the title of this thread is totally wrong, sounds like you got a lot of action.
I think you certainly have this one in the bag. Maybe she wanted you to take totally control and just hump her so she didnt feel like a slvt. Maybe she wont sleep with you the first night cause of her own priorities but might ride it like a cowgirl on the second play night.
Its hard to tell... But either way you sound like youre taking this personally, like an ego hit and it has nothing to do with you.

The best thing to do is ALWAYS BE OK with not getting sex from a girl on the first night. If you really think about it, thats a major jump for A LOT of girls. I think you handled it perfectly, its just your attitude about the whole experience is wrong.
Just always be cool. Be aggressive and go for what you want, but try not to be forceful or pushy about sex... just casually keep escalating towards it, and if it doesn't work today keep the escalation going the next day too...

... I myself have been working on NOT thinking in my head that i'm about to get some. Its such a let down when I'm with a chick and everything is going great and I start thinking "ohhh hell yeah im about to get laid", cause they tend to pick up on your vibe and for some reason it can make them want to stop like they are being slvtty and don't want to be easy.
Its best to not care, just enjoy everything and keep escalating. If you get it then awesome, if not, ohwell you still enjoyed your time with her...
Plus this carefree attitude will be less intrusive and make her more relaxed and comfortable with sleeping with you. It makes her feel like you arent judging her, youre just going with the flow and doing whatever it natural.
 

ready123

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yeah dude, learn how to deal with LMR, that's all it was

when the girl doesn't know you, or hasn't been given enough time to figure out if you're trustworthy, chances are you're gonna run into LMR

learn how to defuse it instead of ejecting yourself. you guys are in your underwear touchign each other, do you think all she really wants to do is zzzzzz? she just wants reassurance she's not making a mistake
 

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That's bad luck.

NEXT!

I'll say it again: NEXT!

One more for the road: NEXT!
 
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