ThunderMaverick
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Ok you DID realize you misspelled "body"...right?Mr. Wise said:Not quite what I was talking about but thanks for the offer - I'm flattered.![]()
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ok you DID realize you misspelled "body"...right?Mr. Wise said:Not quite what I was talking about but thanks for the offer - I'm flattered.![]()
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
This is a great way to do it, Awesome stuff Str8upSTR8UP said:I told them how old I was, then asked how old they were. She said "21" and her friend said "19". My eyes got real wide and I said, "HOLY SH1T! We aren't going to get arrested for talking to you, ARE WE????"
By turning the tables and making it look like I thought she was REALLY young it diffused her thoughts of me being "old" and in effect made it to where SHE had to qualify herself to me instead of the other way around.
Um no... I really meant "BALDY" as in smooth down there. :crackup:ThunderMaverick said:Ok you DID realize you misspelled "body"...right?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
When I was younger, I used to turn the tables on older chics like that. When I was in my early 20s I used to meet a lot of girls who were in their mid- or late-20s at my work. They'd usually tell me I was too young or that I looked too young. My response was: "What's the matter? Don't think you can keep up with me?"STR8UP said:http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94860&highlight=younger+women
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=123807&highlight=younger+women
The first thread is the perfect example of the FOOL PROOF way to diffuse the age issue and use it to your advantage. The second thread is what happens when you forget to use it.
Well, I still date them but this one brings some tight curves to the table big time dude. I was bummed to get sold out like that - fvckin' jealous blockers.MikeYikes122 said:As for the OP, I wouldn't stress on missing out on a 21-year-old. I still date them and like Joeker said they usually don't bring much to the table.
You're very correct in all of the above.STR8UP said:The only bad thing about women under 25 is that they haven't gone through "that time" of their life. Everyone goes through it around their mid 20's, where you just start to wake up and realize what's going on around you.
I absolutely LOVE showing younger chicks new places and things, and I tend to get along with them quite well as long as they have some maturity, but no matter how mature they are there is just no substitute for the wisdom that comes from age.
I'm pretty much resolved to the fact that I can't have a serious relationship with a woman that age. Tried it with my last g/f against my better judgment, and although it was a great two years, there was just no way it could have worked out in the long run.
That said, older men should never be afraid to date younger women. you'll catch plenty of flack from jealous haters (older women) and men who just don't get it, but who the F cares?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
joekerr31 said:21 year olds dont bring much to the table, so its not like you lost out other than getting laid.
I see someone also ascribes to my advice to just lie and it worked out just fine. Wow you told her 25? You must be a young looking 32 year old.st_99 said:So true.
BTW, a few months ago I was at a bar where college age kids hung out and most if not all girls were in the 21 - 23 bracket. An obvious ONS was brewing with this 22 yo when she asked me how old I was....
Yeah, I just lied and told her 25 as not to freak her out if she heard 30 something.![]()
ONS was on and that was that.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.