I met a super hot babe at a bar while I was just sitting down. I told her "hi" and she came over to sit by me. My friends and I were in shock!! We made small talk with my friends and later I took her outside to get "fresh air". She showed all the signs of high interest and then some. Anyway she asked my age and I told her "it's a secret". I got her number, yada, and she gave me a ride to my car. Well, she found out my age (she's 21) from a mutual friend and doesn't want to hang out now that she's informed. How do you guys deal with this? It's happened twice in the last 3 weeks by really popular HB8's. One good thing about this though - a chick I used to date a couple years ago which I wouldn't mind checking out again saw all this happening (she was our waitress). She seems to be interested to go out again - leggy with a nicest baldy I've ever been with!!
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Got nexted because of my age...
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
My advice?
Don't attach too much importance or meaning to this.
Don't hang your Identity onto what some dumb 21 yr old air head thinks.
Recognize your self worth, and don't let this affect your confidence level as much.
Keep your chin up, and stay positive no matter what.
Don't attach too much importance or meaning to this.
Don't hang your Identity onto what some dumb 21 yr old air head thinks.
Recognize your self worth, and don't let this affect your confidence level as much.
Keep your chin up, and stay positive no matter what.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I'm currently being pursued by a woman younger than you.reset said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
21 year olds dont bring much to the table, so its not like you lost out other than getting laid.
as for how to play the 21 year olds. while im no expert on that front i think a good tactic is to actually use age to your advantage by making her age the issue.
for example, once i was having drinks with 3 women. a few drinks in the conversation got onto a sexual topic. and i say 'honestly, blow jobs aren't that important. most women are really bad at them. you can usually tell by a womans personality whether she will be any good or not."
then one of the chics pipes up and says 'im really good at them!"
so i say. 'hmmm. you wouldn't be too bad probably. i'd guess you'd be about a 7 out of 10.'
then the next girl goes 'what about me?"
'you'd probably be a 10 out of 10.'
i won't transcribe the whole convo, but needless to say the women all then got into a heated debated about why i rated one higher than the other and trying to get me to change their rating. i just kept C&F'ing them. btw, the girl i said 7 to was the one i liked, the one i said 10 to i had no interest in - i was just her to get the one i liked to seek my approval.
anyway, when you are with these younger women you gotta drop some stories about how great they will be when they get older and how you love older women because they know what they are doing etc.
im telling you, basically insulting a woman with a compliment (you'll be great when you get older) drives them nuts. then toss in some C&F and they will do anything to prove to you that older women have nothing on them.
as for how to play the 21 year olds. while im no expert on that front i think a good tactic is to actually use age to your advantage by making her age the issue.
for example, once i was having drinks with 3 women. a few drinks in the conversation got onto a sexual topic. and i say 'honestly, blow jobs aren't that important. most women are really bad at them. you can usually tell by a womans personality whether she will be any good or not."
then one of the chics pipes up and says 'im really good at them!"
so i say. 'hmmm. you wouldn't be too bad probably. i'd guess you'd be about a 7 out of 10.'
then the next girl goes 'what about me?"
'you'd probably be a 10 out of 10.'
i won't transcribe the whole convo, but needless to say the women all then got into a heated debated about why i rated one higher than the other and trying to get me to change their rating. i just kept C&F'ing them. btw, the girl i said 7 to was the one i liked, the one i said 10 to i had no interest in - i was just her to get the one i liked to seek my approval.
anyway, when you are with these younger women you gotta drop some stories about how great they will be when they get older and how you love older women because they know what they are doing etc.
im telling you, basically insulting a woman with a compliment (you'll be great when you get older) drives them nuts. then toss in some C&F and they will do anything to prove to you that older women have nothing on them.
MacAvoy
Banned
I'm gonna take the dirt bag unmoralistic bastard route. Realistically speaking, your not gonna enter a LTR with these 21 yr old girls, so just lie a little bit, say your 28 or something. A realistic age that you can pass for.
At 21, if she's pressing, she's that shallow, so why not be shallow back, then its a win win situation, you get a good bang and she gets a good time with a guy thats more mature than a 21 yr old punk.
At 21, if she's pressing, she's that shallow, so why not be shallow back, then its a win win situation, you get a good bang and she gets a good time with a guy thats more mature than a 21 yr old punk.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
drmeathead
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dude you arent in the right frat or a pre-med and plan to take the MCAT next year or you didnt have a chance to do a really cool internship last semster that might get you in to law school (albeit a third teir one) or you arent that bartender on low grade steriods that will let her 20 year old friend in for a few drinks. it had nothing to do with your age man. 21 year old girls are retards for the most part. they wouldnt know a good thing if it bit them in the ass. even if they did, if they are hot and know it they are not about to trade in their small pond celebrity status for some guy with NO SOCIAL PROOF (edit in their minds anyway). age had nothing to do with it.
For YOU it may not be age and all these bonesheads you let beat you out cuz you ugly - I'm very handsome that's why this "being approached by women" always happens.drmeathead said:
Oh, and you should do something about yourself because by the tone of your post you sound like an AVFC - Average Very Frustrated Chump.
drmeathead
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yeah i am an ugly fat old bastard. i was speaking in generalities. sure i can talk to them, get there number and even hook up that night or even date them for a little. it is no big deal. like i said they are retarded and can be an easy mark for a time. my point is that they are at a different point in life than a guy ur age and have value on different things. also, in general, a guy your age is totally out of their social circle and you carry no value beyond physical attraction. which is great for you and can work however it will increase her flake likelihood as well as increase the **** block intensity from her friends.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
when i was 21 i still thought of myself as a 'kid'
i thought of a 31 year old woman as an adult. i saw us as being in highly distinct worlds with very little connection.
it wasn't until i was around 25 that age stopped mattering.
i thought of a 31 year old woman as an adult. i saw us as being in highly distinct worlds with very little connection.
it wasn't until i was around 25 that age stopped mattering.
Yeah, to some chicks it still doesn't matter even at 21. I've dated a 19 yr. old this year. I think the chick has to be confident and secure to be with an older dude. The girl in my post was outgoing but fairly conservative in her thinking, worrying about what others would think about her too much.joekerr31 said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94860&highlight=younger+women
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=123807&highlight=younger+women
The first thread is the perfect example of the FOOL PROOF way to diffuse the age issue and use it to your advantage. The second thread is what happens when you forget to use it.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=123807&highlight=younger+women
The first thread is the perfect example of the FOOL PROOF way to diffuse the age issue and use it to your advantage. The second thread is what happens when you forget to use it.
My Name is Nobody
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I'm dating a 21 year old so far I think she likes the fact I'm older. I'm just focusing on trying to get her to stick around and not acting AFC so far it's working. She is chasing me it feels damn good.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.