"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Got my first number... but I didn't use techniques

Maxwell

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It's wierd, after a million failures, I finally scored a girl's number today, (she was an 8, by the way) and the funny thing is, I forget/neglected all the techniques and stuff I learned, but still pulled it off.

I didn't use kino, (I was sitting across from her, so I couldn't reach over without it seeming unnatural) qualification, C&F, or negs, yet somehow I still got a positive reaction and her number. The only thing I remembered to do was smile and maintain eye contact.

It's so odd, because normally I suck at interacting with women, and the techniques are all that give me a fighting chance, but the one time I forget to implement them, I succeed.

I can only assume it's because I was behaving more "naturally." Maybe I was never good at making the techniques feel natural, and by just going with the flow, I came across as more genuine and laid back.

Anyway, here's my question: is two days too short a time to wait before calling? It's just that I have exams next week, (I'm at University, as is she) then I'm going home for a month, for the Holidays. This saturday is the only real window I have to propose a date. Is waiting a month to call too long? Or should i call on the holidays just to talk, as we'll be 400 kilometers apart then. What should I do?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dude. You don't need techniques to ever get a woman's number. Don't try complicate the matter by buying into the belief that you need to apply C&F, negs etc.

Call in 2-3 days. It doesn't matter, just don't make it a month, that's beyond long. She'll have forgotten you by then unless you left a mega-lasting impression on yourself -- whether positive or not.

It also seems like you'll be 400 km apart. I suggest you look elsewhere if you want to progress into a relationship with this chick quick, and be ready to shell out huge sums on oil for travel.
 

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Allurre said:
It also seems like you'll be 400 km apart. I suggest you look elsewhere if you want to progress into a relationship with this chick quick, and be ready to shell out huge sums on oil for travel.
That's only my parent's place, I'm going down for the holidays; I live at Campus at University, and she lives short driving distance from the Uni, so most of the time, we're quite close, but thanks.

Also, should I call just to talk if I can't make time for a date, to show that I still exist and haven't forgotten about her, or should I only call to do a date?
 

mothballs

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Every woman is different, some you can't neg on, some don't take kindly to kino... some don't care for C&F. There is no one formula that will always get you numbers. It sounds like you acted appropriately in the environment and for that girl to respond and give you a number. Definitely don't wait too long to call her. I like to say 2 days is a good amount of time... shows you're not desperate, but that you are definitely interested. Definitely set up a date for Saturday if you can... then on your time off you can talk to her and get to know her on the phone.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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scrouds said:
Attitude is everything... you can call her today if you want to.
exactly...
the "wait 3-5 days" thing was designed for guys just starting out who tend to
"ACT" way too needy when it comes to trying to get follow up dates and such... these guys would call the woman a hour after meeting her and confess their undenying love for her, and how perfect their interaction was (see "swingers" for a reference).

if you don't come off like you're dieing to see her... and you aren't a chump in anyway when you talk to her - you can call her whenver you feel like it...

it also has a lot to do with the interest level you get out of her... if i have a girls interest level at a 10 out of 10 - i can get away with doing damn near ANYTHING AFCish in the world...


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Techniques were also designed for guys starting out... i fully believe that they do not help most guys get laid much - but instead will help you can comfort and confidence around women.
 

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Yeah, have the "i'm the man, i got nothing to lose" attitude. Once you score with your mind, you can't go wrong. Don't over-analyse what you should and should not do. When you are troubling yourself unnecessarily, remind yourself of who you are.
 

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Just called... and got a guy who said it was a wrong number. Tried again, same thing.

Maybe she gave me a fake number. B!tch.

Gee, that's really encouraging, my first number close is a phony.
 

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sucks dude... but I did want to say something, I've usually had the most success when I didn't think too much about the "rules" and was just in a good mood; attitude is everything. Anyway better luck next time, and remember that the number is just the start, if it's fake you haven't wasted any time on her.
 
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