"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Got laid, now whats next?

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Hi,

I finally hooked up with this charming barmaid from a local pub where I never go.

She told me she had tons of boys lining up for her at the bar but she hasn't made love in a LONG time because she didn't feel comfortable with it.

I could tell she was right because the whole ordeal was a bit unusual.

I am not sure if she came or not. She told me she wasnt the "performance" oriented type and that she didn't yet know what she was going to do with me (laughing).

Even I didn't come probable because I was stressed out and about 4AM..it happens. ( I did have a massive boner though).

I told her she was good but she felt insulted (huh?) then I told her I was honest and didn't mean it in a bad way.

I called the next day and left a message saying "I thought we had a great night last ight and that we should get in touch some other time".

She hasnt called back yet. 2 days now.

She did say that evening that she didn't always return phone calls even from her friends because that was the way she was.

How should I go from now on? Let a few days to a week go by?

I am genuinely wondering about how she is doing...not in a needy way, more like a friend would. Is a phone call or an email better at this point?

I know this wont go far but hey, I like her!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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One-itis. Get over it. You may think she's only a friend to you, and yada yada, but keep thinking like that and you'll see where you heading to.

I'm not saying to next car, afterall, you just got sex with her and such. But if she's acting bad with you, don't even think twice and find another chick.
 

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Toushi said:
One-itis. Get over it. You may think she's only a friend to you, and yada yada, but keep thinking like that and you'll see where you heading to.

I'm not saying to next car, afterall, you just got sex with her and such. But if she's acting bad with you, don't even think twice and find another chick.
So basically, this behaviour is unacceptable?

I can deal with it. Heck, I have dated with a few lately and will find another one just as great.

But tell me, how is it supposed to go with someone in normal circumstances?
 

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Do you know where she works?

Go down there with some friends on a night out.....See how she reacts....If she doesnt acknowledge you....Start gaming girls in the bar right there. Her intrest level will go threw the roof.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Tomatoes said:
Start gaming girls in the bar right there. Her intrest level will go threw the roof.
The first time, I was doing exactly that then she gave me her email as I was going out the door...

So her not calling back is no good right?

I'm afraid to get tagged like all the other guys....

Unless she DOES want me to go back and see me flirt with the other HB's....hmmm
 

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yul said:
The first time, I was doing exactly that then she gave me her email as I was going out the door...

So her not calling back is no good right?

I'm afraid to get tagged like all the other guys....

Unless she DOES want me to go back and see me flirt with the other HB's....hmmm
I'll tell you what.....Call her again.....Then do it 2 days later...that way you called her twice. You went to where she was at work. If she doesnt warm welcome you then its her own fault.
 

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One-night Stand
Heww...that WOULD be painful.

What's the reasoning again that's going to keep from going to the shrink?
The fact that there are millions of other (better) women right?
 

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You say shes a barmaid....???

isnt that like gaming a stripper, she told you she has guys lining up for her and so forth and she prbly lied about most the shvt she told you.

i agree with the homie tomatoe....get a group of your friends and go to where she works.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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WHY WHY TELL ME WHY?

I can take it, just tell me..

I'm AFC because I want to get back with her?

Because she's a barmaid?

I'm AFC because I whine?

Help me :crazy:
 

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yul said:
WHY WHY TELL ME WHY?

I can take it, just tell me..

I'm AFC because I want to get back with her?

Because she's a barmaid?

I'm AFC because I whine?

Help me :crazy:
Forget whether your an AFC or not. Your just a loser in general.
 

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Bvbidd said:
Forget whether your an AFC or not. Your just a loser in general.

Holy crap!

Why would you say such a horrible thing? You are a SENIOR DJ no?
That is not what I would expect from someone like you.

Again, please explain you reasoning. I am here for help.
If you can't explain yourself, then you are to be ashamed of you behaviour.
 

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Can you not see how it makes you look when you're desperately trying to get in contact with someone who isn't responding or initiating contact themselves? It makes you look WEAK. Do you always want to be in a position of weakness? Show that you have a life and you don't have time to waste playing silly games. You don't get mad or even, you simply move on. If she calls you act like you forgot about her or atleast come across that way so she feels like she didn't have that strong of an affect on you.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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yul dont listen to these guys....they get annoyed by AFC's

anyways just go with a group of friends to her bar and if she initiates you then fine if not NEXT and screw some broads from the pub.

just dont be desperate for the bvtch, theres toooo many chicks to be trippen over one.
 

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You're probably the fifty-seventh dude she's laid this year. She saw you as a one-night stand and that's it. What, do you want a relationship with a barmaid ho or what?
 

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Serialized3 said:
What, do you want a relationship with a barmaid ho or what?
Another bang would be great though.

Thanks for clarifying things up.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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