“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Got a job and most of my co-workers are hot girls. How would I go about gaming?

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Got a job as a barback/busser and at a popular restuarant that's kind of like a club. Turns out every server there, even the hostesses and some of the bartenders are hot girls. They are literally all attractive. There's not a single average or ugly girl.

How do I go about hooking up with some of them?
There are literally 20+ hot girls, I'm talking.

It's only my 2nd day and I've been flirting with some of the girls after introducing myself. A few were into it, a couple lukewarm. One of them is leaving next week, and she seems into me, but I'm afraid of poisoning the well. I don't want to be known as 'that guy' in a bad way, so I can't just go around and ask them out willy nilly, like I would with daygame.

Do I just play the long game? When do I make a move? When flirting reaches a climax? And then, do I ask them out on a date, or do I say we should hangout (with an ulterior motive)?

I've never worked with this many attractive women in one place. It's been probably 6 before at most, but this is a gold mine, so I don't want to **** it up
And you think that hot chicks will want to get with someone with a low-paying job such as yourself? :rolleyes:
 

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No, I didn't copy and paste from ChatGPT.

My posts have been all based on 25 years of mating experience and observations.

There's an argument that ChatGPT has greater collective knowledge from online content posted over the years. However, I am a breathing human being that has been out in the real world unlike programmed, artificial intelligence.

I have thought about the idea of being a bouncer before. I have thought about what it would like to be a bouncer. That's where I got those comments.
You seem far too small to be a bouncer.
 

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When it became knowledge that I was now single, a number of the girls at work (and client sites) got a lot more friendly and expressed interest. A lot of sexual comments.

For example, a girl whom I was acquainted with at a client site, came up to me while I was working at the site & said: ‘I know you probably don’t care what people think about you, but you’re really good looking.’
Another example, a coworker said to me; ‘I want to sit on daddy’s lap.’ She then realized she said it in front of other coworkers & got embarrassed.

One more; a coworker & I were discussing whiskey, at one point I jokingly told her: ‘I scratch, but I don’t bite.’ She replied: ‘We should go out and get a drink.’

Things like this

And similar events at multiple jobs when I was single.
This has never happened to me at my worksite :mad:, but has happened once or twice in my expanded social circle :rolleyes:.
 

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Be friendly but don’t flirt and eventually they will start becoming interested in you if you are truly what they consider high value. Remember that they likely have hot friends.

It’s really that simple.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I was chuckling at "LEG HUMPER" you also bring up a good point. They use to have "Service Industry Nights" these were nights(usually Mondays or Tuesdays it depends on the area etc) were people at bars/returants got discounts at certain places who worked in the hospitiality industry. If I was OP and they have him in his city/state I would take advantage of that. It's easy to make connections with other barstaff i.e. bartenders, waitresses etc. If they know you're in the industry the benefits are huge. Because now you have access to other bars/clubs and don't have to "shyt" where you eat at your own spot if you catch my drfit. If I was OP I would look for "Service Industry *Input City Name* on facebook and Instagram or just google it.

I didn't work at bars but I made connections going out those nights. Service industry nights (espeically if they were on Monday) tend to be slower and less chaotic but it was a perfect time to network.I saved crap ton of money with free drinks over the years. Being able to skip long wait lines. While bringing girls in tow. VIP access etc.

While I started my STEM workday at 7:30 on weekdays. :mad:
 

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While I started my STEM workday at 7:30 on weekdays. :mad:
Most white collar workers aren't able to go hard with nightlife Sunday-Thursday nights if they are responsible. White collar work days often start between 7:30 AM - 9 AM.

Going out late into nights Sunday-Thursday will cause a white collar worker to sleep an insufficient amount. They won't be as mentally sharp for their work the next day. This can have serious consequences in white collar work as a lot of white collar work requires mental clarity and focus. Insufficient sleep can affect job performance.

You also got into white collar work at a time when white collar interview processes were less difficult. I have had most of my white collar career after 2008. Since the mid to late 2000s, white collar employers have been more keen to lay off and less quick to hire. Hiring processing have gotten more demanding and there have been multiple recessions from 2008-present. You were already in your mid-40s and well established in white collar work when 2008 hit.

Job performance means a lot more now than it once did.

Blue collar workers who work during the day may or may not consider late night nightlife as much.

Some white collar workers will go out on Thursday nights a little bit harder.
 

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Most white collar workers aren't able to go hard with nightlife Sunday-Thursday nights if they are responsible. White collar work days often start between 7:30 AM - 9 AM.

Going out late into nights Sunday-Thursday will cause a white collar worker to sleep an insufficient amount. They won't be as mentally sharp for their work the next day. This can have serious consequences in white collar work as a lot of white collar work requires mental clarity and focus. Insufficient sleep can affect job performance.

You also got into white collar work at a time when white collar interview processes were less difficult. I have had most of my white collar career after 2008. Since the mid to late 2000s, white collar employers have been more keen to lay off and less quick to hire. Hiring processing have gotten more demanding and there have been multiple recessions from 2008-present. You were already in your mid-40s and well established in white collar work when 2008 hit.

Job performance means a lot more now than it once did.

Blue collar workers who work during the day may or may not consider late night nightlife as much.

Some white collar workers will go out on Thursday nights a little bit harder.
LOL, by my mid-40s, I was well-established in being obsolete & unemployable.
 

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LOL, by my mid-40s, I was well-established in being obsolete & unemployable.
I guess you didn't keep up your STEM skills.

The upside would have been you got more freedom to stay out late at night and pursue pussie though.
 

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Be friendly but don’t flirt and eventually they will start becoming interested in you if you are truly what they consider high value. Remember that they likely have hot friends.

It’s really that simple.
I've been doing both and it seems to be going pretty well. Being friendly, teasing, and subtle flirting without being blatantly direct. Tempted to blow the load and just ask them out, a cold approach habit, but I know it would bite me in the ass. 3rd day working and still meeting new servers, and they're all hot. In my experience, girls love to gossip about guys, even co-workers, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing and let good rumors circulate
 

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Most white collar workers aren't able to go hard with nightlife Sunday-Thursday nights if they are responsible. White collar work days often start between 7:30 AM - 9 AM.

Going out late into nights Sunday-Thursday will cause a white collar worker to sleep an insufficient amount. They won't be as mentally sharp for their work the next day. This can have serious consequences in white collar work as a lot of white collar work requires mental clarity and focus. Insufficient sleep can affect job performance.

You also got into white collar work at a time when white collar interview processes were less difficult. I have had most of my white collar career after 2008. Since the mid to late 2000s, white collar employers have been more keen to lay off and less quick to hire. Hiring processing have gotten more demanding and there have been multiple recessions from 2008-present. You were already in your mid-40s and well established in white collar work when 2008 hit.

Job performance means a lot more now than it once did.

Blue collar workers who work during the day may or may not consider late night nightlife as much.

Some white collar workers will go out on Thursday nights a little bit harder.
Most people who are adults don't want to "go hard" like they did when they were in college.

It's called maturing and growing up and being an adult. Some people never reach that stage and are like Peter Pan stuck in Neverland tho...
 

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Most people who are adults don't want to "go hard" like they did when they were in college.

It's called maturing and growing up and being an adult.
It's possible for mature adults to see the value in being able to stay out later Sunday-Thursday nights either for bar approaching new women or going later into the night with a freer spirit on 1st/2nd dates.

Women out at the bars at 11:30 PM on Tuesday or Wednesday nights might be more serious about meeting men as compared to women out at 11:30 PM on Friday or Saturday nights. There's less attention and validation seeking going on with the weeknight audience as compared to Friday/Saturday night.

As for dates, being able to push later into the night and not worry about the next morning can be a IDGAF attitude on dates that can be appealing.

There was one time where I had a week off in between jobs. I didn't travel that week. I had a first date on a Sunday night and I didn't wrap that date up until after midnight. Had I been working that week, I would have started to get concerned about work and sleep around 10 PM. That's a less appealing feeling.

I am responsible and value my sleep in preparation for my work days on the weekdays. That's been something I've been doing since college graduation. It isn't fun to do all the time.
 

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Got a job as a barback/busser and at a popular restuarant that's kind of like a club. Turns out every server there, even the hostesses and some of the bartenders are hot girls. They are literally all attractive. There's not a single average or ugly girl.

How do I go about hooking up with some of them?
There are literally 20+ hot girls, I'm talking.

It's only my 2nd day and I've been flirting with some of the girls after introducing myself. A few were into it, a couple lukewarm. One of them is leaving next week, and she seems into me, but I'm afraid of poisoning the well. I don't want to be known as 'that guy' in a bad way, so I can't just go around and ask them out willy nilly, like I would with daygame.

Do I just play the long game? When do I make a move? When flirting reaches a climax? And then, do I ask them out on a date, or do I say we should hangout (with an ulterior motive)?

I've never worked with this many attractive women in one place. It's been probably 6 before at most, but this is a gold mine, so I don't want to **** it up
get on good/friendly terms with as many of them as possible. The more of them that know and like you the easier it will be to get any/all of them.

Aim to move fast with the ones who seem to like you the most, but you can play the long game with the ones who start to like you more over a long time.

Play it safe when gaming in the workplace, leave any girl alone that gives even a hint of low interest or disinterest. Don’t say or do anything that can be proven to HR or management. Obviously treat them well and be relatively nice, don’t ghost your work wife to start fvcking her work bestie the next day.
 
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A long time ago I worked at a restaurant/bar with a similar dynamic and luckily I got fired. I didn’t sleep with any of the women working there. Everything had complex sexual relationship entanglements. It was like a soap opera.

Examples: my ex girlfriend’s brother was friends with the chef who was dating the leading waitress who befriended my ex girlfriend and told her about me. And a girl I met online was coming to the restaurant to say hi all the time and she once dated the bouncer. And I accidentally matched online dating with the woman who managed the bar who knew my brother from college. One of the women who worked there was a straight up psycho killer I kid you not.

The way I’d approach it is let people know you’re in a relationship with a nice girl and keep it vague. I’d try my best to just be a good coworker with everyone because a roomful of hot women can be deadly. Once you start drinking with any of the ladies it’s only a matter of time before you’re entangled in a lot more drama than you bargained for.
 

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get on good/friendly terms with as many of them as possible. The more of them that know and like you the easier it will be to get any/all of them.

Aim to move fast with the ones who seem to like you the most, but you can play the long game with the ones who start to like you more over a long time.

Play it safe when gaming in the workplace, leave any girl alone that gives even a hint of low interest or disinterest. Don’t say or do anything that can be proven to HR or management. Obviously treat them well and be relatively nice, don’t ghost your work wife to start fvcking her work bestie the next day.
Here's the thing. It's going really well. I've been having a good time, flirting a bit, teasing a lot, and a lot of the girls like me now.

There are still some servers that I haven't seen before, that come in, are intrigued and introducing themselves to me. I've only been working a couple days a week, so I assume the other girls are talking about me throughout the week when I'm off and it's doing me massive favors.

A couple of the girls are obviously into me, and really engage with me. Today, I was talking to one of them about travel and she dropped that she USED to date someone for a couple years which kept her from traveling. She was hinting that she's single.

You say that I should aim to move fast with those kinda girls, but thing is, how tf do I go about taking her out? If I directly tell her hey, I'm gonna take you out to such and such, and she says no despite all the flirting, then either way, she'll most likely going to tell the others, "hey Oatmeal31 asked me out yadda yadda I turned him down."

Then, from that point on I could be seen in a bad way if I ask other girls out from that point on. I don't want to fall victim to herd mentality, where all it takes is for one girl to say no and the rest will follow.

I've blantantly asked out women from work before. What usually happens is that other girls magically become more intrigued and interested, whether it's a yes/no, but I've never asked those girls out after being rejected, so I'm not sure what kind of results I'd get.

This is a goldmine. I just don't know how to do it without muddying the waters. Sh!t, I'd ask the other dudes at work how they go about it, but they don't even talk to the girls lol. I'm one of the few that does.

I know that if I can get one of the girls, **** her and make it super pleasurable, she'll spread the word and that will do the work for me. But I believe the hardest part is getting that first YES
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You will have them fighting over you if you play it right and then it becomes a competition on who can fvck you first
This is starting to happen now. I'm getting a lot of good signs and "green" lights so to speak. Now, how can I take the next step forward? If it's a competition for them, I'd still have to initiate and ask them out no?

All I need is to get one girl, **** her really good, she'll naturally spread the word because all they do is gossip, and the others will come.

So how do I ask out that first girl? Because if I directly ask her out, and she somehow says no, then it might have a domino effect, and then the other girls will say no because of herd mentality. So it's better to have some kind of plausible deniability right? How would you go about it?
 

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Just like in every workplace, you have a finite number of bullets in your chamber. If you are too liberal with your invites, you increase their supply, making them worthless. In addition, if you ask someone out frequently and they constantly flake or decline, you’ll be seen as socially inept. The point I’m trying to make is that you have to be selective. Since everything taken to extremes is harmful, asking out too many women, or too few, would be detrimental to your goals.

With this in mind, I would start by asking for numbers before asking anyone out. Focus on the ones who make themselves available to you by insinuating a future together or by qualifying themselves. For example, those who say, “You should try that restaurant, it’s really good,” or “You should watch that movie,” those who bring you candy, coffee, or something else when you’re on the same shift, or those who find excuses to get close and talk to you during boring moments. Look for clues when they say things like, “I like such and such,” or mention, “My birthday is coming up”; these are invitations to get to know them. By texting you’ll find out who is open to your influence, who is emotionally available, and you can start the process building a more personal connection instead. Ask out the ones who are showing high interest or who are actively qualifying themselves to you.

Unfortunately, time is of the essence. If you take too long to make a move or are not good at reading their signals, they will assume you’re not interested, and you will go from being a potential suitor to just another coworker while they find someone else to rearrange their guts.
 

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Just like in every workplace, you have a finite number of bullets in your chamber. If you are too liberal with your invites, you increase their supply, making them worthless. In addition, if you ask someone out frequently and they constantly flake or decline, you’ll be seen as socially inept. The point I’m trying to make is that you have to be selective. Since everything taken to extremes is harmful, asking out too many women, or too few, would be detrimental to your goals.

With this in mind, I would start by asking for numbers before asking anyone out. Focus on the ones who make themselves available to you by insinuating a future together or by qualifying themselves. For example, those who say, “You should try that restaurant, it’s really good,” or “You should watch that movie,” those who bring you candy, coffee, or something else when you’re on the same shift, or those who find excuses to get close and talk to you during boring moments. Look for clues when they say things like, “I like such and such,” or mention, “My birthday is coming up”; these are invitations to get to know them. By texting you’ll find out who is open to your influence, who is emotionally available, and you can start the process building a more personal connection instead. Ask out the ones who are showing high interest or who are actively qualifying themselves to you.

Unfortunately, time is of the essence. If you take too long to make a move or are not good at reading their signals, they will assume you’re not interested, and you will go from being a potential suitor to just another coworker while they find someone else to rearrange their guts.
So go for the girls with the greenest of lights, so there is very little chance of a NO, which would probably muddy waters. Strike when the iron is hot or she'll lose interest.

Take her out, blow her back out, make it super enjoyable, she'll naturally tell the other girls, and they'll give greener lights because they are now more curious and want the same.

So, never directly ask them out but flirt and use soft invites as an excuse to hang out. Then flirt when you hang out and go from there. Hope that doesn't backfire and she's suddenly asking why I'm making moves when I never directly told her I'm attracted. Guess drinks are a must so it 'just happens'
 
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So go for the girls with the greenest of lights, so there is very little chance of a NO, which would probably muddy waters. Strike when the iron is hot or she'll lose interest.

Take her out, blow her back out, make it super enjoyable, she'll naturally tell the other girls, and they'll give greener lights because they are now more curious and want the same.

So, never directly ask them out but flirt and use soft invites as an excuse to hang out. Then flirt when you hang out and go from there. Hope that doesn't backfire and she's suddenly asking why I'm making moves when I never directly told her I'm attracted. Guess drinks are a must so it 'just happens'
I mean, maybe? I’m pretty realistic, maybe even too skeptical for my own good, but I think the idea of sleeping with a bunch of women just because the first girl spreads the word is a bit unrealistic, especially in close quarters where it’s smarter to avoid drama and most women don’t like playing second fiddle. That kind of ripple effect only really happens if you’re the type of guy who makes women feel intensely desired, thrilling, playful, anf feel drawn to almost against their better judgment.

That said, I think my approach would still get you one or two notches, which is way better than none. Maybe ask @CornbreadFed if he has a better procedure since this was his idea after all.

But you’re the one actually in that environment, what do you think?
 

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I mean, maybe? I’m pretty realistic, maybe even too skeptical for my own good, but I think the idea of sleeping with a bunch of women just because the first girl spreads the word is a bit unrealistic, especially in close quarters where it’s smarter to avoid drama and most women don’t like playing second fiddle. That kind of ripple effect only really happens if you’re the type of guy who makes women feel intensely desired, thrilling, playful, anf feel drawn to almost against their better judgment.

That said, I think my approach would still get you one or two notches, which is way better than none. Maybe ask @CornbreadFed if he has a better procedure since this was his idea after all.

But you’re the one actually in that environment, what do you think?
Doesn't seem far fetched to me. All girls talk about with each other are guys and sex. I hardly hear anything else and they like to go into details lol. I can keep my mouth shut, but I know they won't.

If I can make her orgasm, then who knows. Maybe that's all it takes. It'd be a form of social proof that can work well for me.

I'm just stuck at asking one out. I guess I'd have to make it seem like it 'just happened' naturally so she doesn't feel like a $lut. Or maybe I go direct if we flirt and build enough sexual tension. I don't really know yet

I'm just a guinea pig right now
 
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