"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Good sign/bad sign?

yowhatsup

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So there's this girl at school (college) that i'm pretty interested in. We've talked a little bit, done some studying together, joked around, etc. Yesterday, I decide I'm going to move in a little closer. She's in one of my lectures so I "accidentally" see her there and she and her friend invite me to sit with them. Everything is going swell right. Well, not long after this she starts talking with her (girl)friend saying things like

"Ya, he went with his friends to karaoke and didn't invite me. I hung up the phone on him, blah blah blah, what an idiot, i'm pissed at him" I'm pretty sure she's talking about her boyfriend. Ordinarily i would have taken that as a bad sign. Now I'm pretty new to this DJ stuff (been lurking here a while, reading the bible, etc) but I think I read somewhere in the bible that if the girl starts talking about how much of a loser her boyfriend is, that's a good sign for me?

Another question, after class, it sounds like her and her friend are making other plans, and I've got to eat lunch and get somewhere, so I just say my good byes and take off. I end up running into them in the cafeteria, I say jokingly "Well look who it is!" she says kind of smiling "What are you, stalking me?" and I just laugh it off, and we start talking about something else. Good sign/bad sign? Neither? Overall I seemed to be getting good vibes from her, but these 2 things kind of threw me off!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yowhatsup

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Also, one more thing, if she and this loser boyfriend are sort of on the rocks, what should I do? I'd like to be with her, but I'm unsure what to do now, proceed as usual?
 

jesusrules

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hmm from what im reading I think she likes you man. If she didnt most likely she wouldnt have cared to hang out study or do whatever with you.

As far as if she has a boyfriend you need to find out man. Just ask her a question like so how long have you been with your b/f for?

if she is in the rocks with him who knows she may choose you. Hey I hope things go cool for you.
 

yowhatsup

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I don't want to be too blatant about the boyfriend issue, I don't think she knows that I think she has a boyfriend. I think I'll ask questions that will get her to bring it up.

"What do you do for fun?"
"what do you do on the weekends?" stuff like that where she might reply "Me and my boyfriend blah blah..." Then I'll find out more about it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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yowhatsup

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I'm bumping this again, come on guys! i'm going to see her tommorow and need some opinions.
 

Play the Game

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yowhatsup said:
but I think I read somewhere in the bible that if the girl starts talking about how much of a loser her boyfriend is, that's a good sign for me?
That's not a good sign, that just means her boyfriend is a "jerk" who like to hang out with his friends. Doesn't sound like much of a loser to me. You're interpreting it as a good sign b/c you have a capt. save a h0 mentality.


yowhatsup said:
"What are you, stalking me?" and I just laugh it off, and we start talking about something else. Good sign/bad sign? Neither? Overall I seemed to be getting good vibes from her, but these 2 things kind of threw me off!
Sounds like she was joking, but there's a bit of truth in every joke. Don't intentionally try to find her. Stalker / Creepy guy is possibly lower than AFC.


Bit of Advice:

Stay away from her "girl talk" session or you'll turn into one of the girls.

Get some guy friends.

Go talk to 3 other girls.


If i had to guess where you stand with her, you're probably somewhere on the friends ladder w/ cuddle b1tch potential.
 

Sandow

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always assume the girl likes you....always
 

hbxdoode

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haha just go for it bro... what have you got to loose. ask her to go study or something tomorrow. as long as you get her to hang out with you, you got a chance. never know unless you try... good luck!!!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJ#7436

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Your in friend zone, some serious game immediately could save you, but your pushing your time limit. You should have said "What are you stalking me?" before she did.

NewB
 

xdreamz

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just go for her man what is this worrying about some other dude stuff.... aren't you up for a challenge?
 
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