"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Good material on how to handle flakes?

Borknagar

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Anyone got or know of any good material on how to deal with flakey women? That seems to be the only problem in my game, and it's probably the most annoying trait of the typical women!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Shrug it off and keep on movin'. You can't land 'em all, and a woman flaking out on you is inevitable at some point. They all do it.

A lack of real interest is why any woman will flake, so figure out if there's something about your "game" that you need to work on, to generate a higher interest level.

Killing desperation and neediness is key to keeping the flakes at bay.
 

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I'm with Bad Ass Canadian. Women, by nature, are very whimsical and indecisive, they'll change their mind over and over and at the last minute. It's frustrating as hell and it's happened to me more times than I can count, but you basically have to expect it and just put it behind you when it happens.

Sometimes they'll come around, other times they won't, but it has to be on their terms.

Meanwhile, just keep building your prospects and seeing multiple women. When one flakes, go out with the next...and so on. Women criticise men for being players, but they only have themselves to blame in my opinion.
 

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Jariel said:
I'm with Bad Ass Canadian. Women, by nature, are very whimsical and indecisive, they'll change their mind over and over and at the last minute. It's frustrating as hell and it's happened to me more times than I can count, but you basically have to expect it and just put it behind you when it happens.

Sometimes they'll come around, other times they won't, but it has to be on their terms.

Meanwhile, just keep building your prospects and seeing multiple women. When one flakes, go out with the next...and so on. Women criticise men for being players, but they only have themselves to blame in my opinion.
yup.:up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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check out the 2 strikes rule (see my signature)

But someone said earlier flakes are only a problem if you are not gaming multiple women. Concentrating on just 1 woman is seriously limiting and hurting your options for success. If you're seeking knowledge you don't read just 1 book you read a couple. Same concept applies with women. If you're seeking secks you need to seek a couple women as many if not most might not work out but as long as one does it makes it worth it.
 

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Jariel said:
I'm with Bad Ass Canadian. Women, by nature, are very whimsical and indecisive, they'll change their mind over and over and at the last minute. It's frustrating as hell and it's happened to me more times than I can count, but you basically have to expect it and just put it behind you when it happens.

Sometimes they'll come around, other times they won't, but it has to be on their terms.

Meanwhile, just keep building your prospects and seeing multiple women. When one flakes, go out with the next...and so on. Women criticise men for being players, but they only have themselves to blame in my opinion.
Oh trust me I agree with you 200%, I do meet multiple women, trust me I do, I have several interests right now(which gets kinda confusing) but I'm trying to figure out how to totally PREVENT it from happening!

What you said about being players, you hit the nail on the head with that one, I've been saying it myself for awhile now, they only have their own sisterhood to blame!
 

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I personally like my flakes with a tad bit of sugar, then I let the milk make the flakes soggy. Soggy sugar flakes =nom nom nom nom
 

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I have several interests right now(which gets kinda confusing) but I'm trying to figure out how to totally PREVENT it from happening!
You and me both mate! I've had a LOT of chicks flake on me over the years, either cancelling a date last minute or just waking up one day deciding to ignore me. It frustrates the hell out of me, but I've never been able to understand what goes through their mind...especially when they've been really into me/obsessive just the day before.

The only way I've been able to prevent it is to keep cool. I used to make the mistake of asking a girl out and once she accepted, I'd sometimes get a bit complacent thinking "I've got her". I'd contact her a bit too often before the date, reply to her texts too quickly, say too many complimentary things (i.e. "I've been wanting to ask you out for ages" or "can't wait to see you"). Granted, they say the same sort of things, but I think it pays to remain fairly indifferent until the date and let your actions speak louder than words. Then, even if that first date goes amazingly well, don't fall into the trap of acting too keen...even if she's white hot for you! That's been another of my mistakes.

Sometimes girls flake because they're not that interested or if there's another guy, but you can usually tell if that's the case. If they're really keen to begin with then suddenly go cold or flake out, it's probably because they fear getting trapped.

In the early stages of dating girls like to keep their options open and feel a sense of freedom. Even the slightest signs that a guy is too into them or might be too hard to brush off down the line will threaten that sense of freedom and so they'll bail out before it gets to that stage. Even if they really like the guy, they still want to know they have options (if you've ever been shopping with a woman, you can see how their minds work).

Basically, the best thing we can do is just stand back, give her space and wait for them to make their mind up. This is where it feels quite futile being a man, and we hate that feeling! Meanwhile, all we can do is just get on with things and find distractions (and other women :) ).

This is just my opinion and what I've gained from my experiences. I don't think I'll even know for sure what goes through the heads of these women!
 
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Flakes are good thing, it means you are not wasting your time with a woman that has low interest in you.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Borknagar said:
Anyone got or know of any good material on how to deal with flakey women? That seems to be the only problem in my game, and it's probably the most annoying trait of the typical women!

I don't know of a whole lot of advice or material on flake prevention,but I suggest you have a look at the info in my signature to see it if can help you out. I've suggested it to a few members before and it's gotten them the results they were after.


Here are three to name a few.....



VIKING22: He has a thread HERE called "Girl with a crazy work schedule-How do I make it work?".

Check out replies #5,#14,and #17.





RANDALLP:He has a thread HERE called "What now?"

Check out replies #17,18,27,and #31....ESPECIALLY #31.




CLONEOFSTENYHOYER: He has a thread HERE called "Girl,me"

Check out replies 1-4,11 and 12,then jump down to #16....especially #16.



I suggested it to them,and they all seemed pretty content with the results they got,so maybe it can help you too.


Later man.
 

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Don Juans never handle flakes, AFC's and soon to be Don Juans do.
Don Juans just search for other girls in his collection.
Take note of the word "collection" That's a clue.
refer to the Book of POOK. Multiple back - ups of women.
 
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