"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Good Idea to Use Jealousy?

JBB84

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Good Idea to Use Jealousy Plot?

A girl who I have a long history of on again off again hooking up recently ended things with me, stating that she wanted to be my friend, continued contacting me every day and making an effort to be really nice. I was initially responsive but would not initiate contact. Anyhow, on Friday night she asked what I was doing around 10PM and I waited a while to respond and vaguely said I had just finished a late dinner. Next morning she continued to ask about what I was doing so I said I went on a date (I really didn't, just wanted to see if she would be mad). Ever since then she has not been talking to me at all. Coincidentally, the reason I even told her I was on a date was due to a thread I had found on this site saying how powerful of a tool jealousy is and that letting a woman know you are seeing other women will heighten interest very quickly. I also came across the whole concept of "No Contact" and have pledged not to contact her either, however I was enjoying the leverage of responding to her texts however I wanted. Now she isn't talking to me at all. It definitely burnt her, but I hope it didn't drive her away. I am thinking to continue no-contact is the best course of action here.

What I really want to know is if you guys think telling her I was on a date was a useful move and how far to really go with the whole jealousy plot. I know it creates value, etc, but some girls will not bother if they think you are with someone else due to their own ego. Thoughts?
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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she was interested until you said you were on a date!!
guys have a tendency to be explicit, honest...if they know anoter woman is involved, they will seethe, resent, plot, scheme ..or f cuck another guy, anyway, you wont know.

you should have been vague "had dinner, it went on until late, you know how it is" let her mind wander..

as for jealousy...Im not sure women have jealousy the way men think they do, they are more proud than men, more stubborn and when it comes to guys, far more competative. it appears as jealousy, im not sure it is, its more competition, loss, lessening of ones own worth as a result. men are more jealous than women, women couch their competition, loss as jealousy
 

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JBB84 said:
however I was enjoying the leverage of responding to her texts however I wanted. Now she isn't talking to me at all. It definitely burnt her, but I hope it didn't drive her away.
What "leverage"? She had already dumped and was trying to keep you as an orbiter. Once you said you were dating someone else, she figured you were a lost cause (as far being a potential orbiter). If this girl actually wanted to be you friend instead of trying to use you for personal validation, she would not have reacted that way.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I appreciate the advice. To UPDATE: She contacted me on Friday (yesterday) asking how everything was going. I chose to respond, and she ended up telling me that she had no plans for Friday night. We hung out, went out to dinner, I slept at her place and we did not hook up. This morning we went out to breakfast and I left afterwards. She asked about the girl I "went out with" and I didn't give her any info, I played it cool, and after I left she sent me several texts. She has no idea what I am doing tonight, and I know it bothers her. I think I am going to be her friend at a distance for now - being that we have mutual friends and will have run ins eventually.

The leverage I was talking about was that she was always initiating conversation and I was able to steer it in which ever way I chose to. I don't know if you have read my past posts but this girl and I have mutual friends and a history of hooking up for years off and on. I am keeping my options open but this little project with her keeps me on my feet. She is a solid 10, looks and status wise.
 

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JBB84 said:
I appreciate the advice. To UPDATE: She contacted me on Friday (yesterday) asking how everything was going. I chose to respond, and she ended up telling me that she had no plans for Friday night. We hung out, went out to dinner, I slept at her place and we did not hook up.
why not? she isnt putting you in the friend zone, you are doing it yourself, if your going to be shot down at least be shot down over the target
 

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make the ho say no. Make her keep saying no till someone leaves or you get the lay.
 
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