"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Okay I went out and had drinks with my female co worker. We were having a conversation and I told her to come put yo pretty lips on mines. She laughed and said I cant take you serious. I then tried to kiss her and she stop me and said she dont kiss or **** men she's not in a relationship with. The very first time we went out she was upfront about living with a dude for Financial reasons and I told her we can have fun but im not getting involved with you. So back to the last time we went out I told her again I dont date women thats not coming home to me. She argues her and her dude are not ****ing. I just walk away cause I felt like it was a waste of time. She was shocked
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Rocnavy said:
dont kiss or **** men she's not in a relationship with
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kissing, for many women = you need to be my BF

Rocnavy said:
I dont date women thats not coming home to me.
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it is a waste of time, she thinks you are a playa... and not in a good way.

Rocnavy said:
I told her to come put yo pretty lips on mines
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lol wut? The last time a guy got a first kiss by asking... was never.

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She argues her and her dude are not ****ing.
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anti-slvt tactic. She is literally being a wh0re


what a disaster... on your part
 
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MrWood said:
kissing, for many women = you need to be my BF


it is a waste of time, she thinks you are a playa... and not in a good way.


lol wut? The last time a guy got a first kiss by asking... was never.


anti-slvt tactic. She is literally being a wh0re


what a disaster... on your part
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Then whats the bad way being a playa and I didnt ask for a kiss I Implied
 
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Then whats the bad way being a playa and I didnt ask for a kiss I Implied
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The bad way of being a player is when the woman in question doesn't like players. Some women are intrigued by a guy who acts like that, some are not.

You didn't imply, you just said it in a fancy way. She would have to be absolutely retarded to not interpret that as asking her to kiss you, it's not vague enough to say you just implied it. The mistake is telling her to do it, whether it's a question or a command. You should just take action and go for it yourself, her response is your answer, either she let it happen or she don't.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The bad way of being a player is when the woman in question doesn't like players. Some women are intrigued by a guy who acts like that, some are not.

You didn't imply, you just said it in a fancy way. She would have to be absolutely retarded to not interpret that as asking her to kiss you, it's not vague enough to say you just implied it. The mistake is telling her to do it, whether it's a question or a command. You should just take action and go for it yourself, her response is your answer, either she let it happen or she don't.
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But the thing is she's living with a dude and talking bout she dont **** or kiss dudes she's not in a relationship with. So I just told her its time for me to go and walked away cause im not being in no relationship with a female thats living with a dude.
 
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Rocnavy said:
But the thing is she's living with a dude and talking bout she dont **** or kiss dudes she's not in a relationship with. So I just told her its time for me to go and walked away cause im not being in no relationship with a female thats living with a dude.
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And the reason why I just didnt want to go for the kiss cause this is the first and I wanna make sure im not overstepping any boundaries. Now if we had kissed before then I would just go for it.
 
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she's living with a dude and talking bout she dont **** or kiss dudes she's not in a relationship with
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its a lie.
you have a lot to learn

girls say this to not be perceived as, a prostitute.
 
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its a lie.
you have a lot to learn

girls say this to not be perceived as, a prostitute.
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Ok but at the same time im not trying to be perceived as desperate. I tried to change the situation before I made the choice to walk away. Ive learn a lot in life and the one thing a man can do is beg a woman after she declines your offer.
 
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She sounds like the player in this situation. Maybe not the traditional "playa". But she is playing you. And if you believe she is living with a dude for financial reasons and not sleeping with him (at least occasionally) then I have a bridge I can sell you.
And even if she is telling the truth, this is an oddball situation and she is not worth the hassle.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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halfguard said:
She sounds like the player in this situation. Maybe not the traditional "playa". But she is playing you. And if you believe she is living with a dude for financial reasons and not sleeping with him (at least occasionally) then I have a bridge I can sell you.
And even if she is telling the truth, this is an oddball situation and she is not worth the hassle.
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I agree and thats why I walked away instead
 
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