"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Going out with her just to go out?

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Long story short,

Met a girl online, we meet for first date. goes great. meet for 2nd date (next day) goes great as well.

Before this girl, I really havent been out much with that many girls, so I thought id try it out. (she came on to me). I am pretty picky with who i go out with, but I thought since it had been such a long time since i went out, id give it a try.

I do not feel that attracted to her and also i sense she is perhaps even playing mind games.

Fast forward a week, and we have scheduled to go out tonight (friday) on our 3rd date.

At this point im not sure if i should flake or go out with her just to go out?

HELP?
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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peteywintz

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You seem like you aren't approaching women enough. If you're picky with who you go out with, you have to approach that much more to be able to find the same amount of dates for a less picky DJ. Her coming on to you is also a pretty big indicator that you need to get out there and meet more women.

W.r.t. this girl, don't go out for the sake of going out; go out and escalate. Unless she's an obese 2, what is the worst that can happen?
 

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my brother told me to always go sexually on first date, grab her hands, escalate. I believe he is very correct. is she fuarkable? if so, insert.
 

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peteywintz said:
You seem like you aren't approaching women enough. If you're picky with who you go out with, you have to approach that much more to be able to find the same amount of dates for a less picky DJ. Her coming on to you is also a pretty big indicator that you need to get out there and meet more women.

W.r.t. this girl, don't go out for the sake of going out; go out and escalate. Unless she's an obese 2, what is the worst that can happen?
You are spot on!

Good catching all that.

Yes, I do need to approach and meet more women, Honestly I am always either busy or don't have the skill set in public.

And honestly I don't know what is the worst that could happen, Hence Why i am posting here and asking for advice.

I dont know if i should put in the effort to make something happen out of this, or just to move on.

Thanks!
 

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moneyisking said:
my brother told me to always go sexually on first date, grab her hands, escalate. I believe he is very correct. is she fuarkable? if so, insert.
I assume I need to move quicker then! haha

She is very classy and conservative, so I am a little weary about making moves.

Although Im sure tonight i will atleast try.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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As long as you're not paying for everything, just keep her around for practice.
Just for $hits and giggles, do the whole seduction thing on her and then don't make a move on her. See what kind of reaction you get.

It's like job interviews, the more you do the better you get at them.
 

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Cremasta said:
As long as you're not paying for everything, just keep her around for practice.
Just for $hits and giggles, do the whole seduction thing on her and then don't make a move on her. See what kind of reaction you get.

It's like job interviews, the more you do the better you get at them.
Unfortunately, I will most likely be paying.

Also, is there a specific thread where i can find this seduction method?

Lets see!
 

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nickmb said:
Also, is there a specific thread where i can find this seduction method?
Here's one for you...

Nickmb: So where are you taking me this Friday?
Girl: I don't know, why?
Nickmb: It's your turn to pay.
 

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@nick

I'm in the same boat as u. I'm going out with a girl that came onto me. I'm not attracted enough. I do cold approach but not as often as I should and therefore don't have enough dates with girls I like. I get pressure sometimes by friends to date around and then I ask out girls who are clearly into but not the other way around.

I'm thinking about just canceling tonight. Ever since she got my number she's been blowing me up with texts. Other guys r saying just use her as practice but I can't even get into if I'm not attracted. Only time I bang chicks I'm not into is when I'm drunk and I drunk texted this girl.
 

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i think you need to give time to yourself to think and till then let be friends.when you are fully out of confusion to own the relationship you will enjoy more.if you need any help related to the romentic dinning, places,parks and beeches which suit your pocket or a car to take your girl for a drive then feel free to contact SFO LIMO SERVICE.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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AAAgent said:
@nick

I'm in the same boat as u. I'm going out with a girl that came onto me. I'm not attracted enough. I do cold approach but not as often as I should and therefore don't have enough dates with girls I like. I get pressure sometimes by friends to date around and then I ask out girls who are clearly into but not the other way around.

I'm thinking about just canceling tonight. Ever since she got my number she's been blowing me up with texts. Other guys r saying just use her as practice but I can't even get into if I'm not attracted. Only time I bang chicks I'm not into is when I'm drunk and I drunk texted this girl.
Yes,

Exactly, I need to do more cold approaches I assume!

And ignoring this girl makes it worse, Its like shes stalking me.
 
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