Going out gaming again no wings doing it alone

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

cringe

"I need a wingman to help me get women" is just simply a pathetic mindset.

A real man don't wait for (or need) a wingman.

A real man doesn't wait for (or need) a woman to give him choosing signals (IOIs).

A real man goes out and makes shiit happen, because it simply needs to be done.

"My wingman Chris is sick, so I guess I won't be going out tonight" is simply a weak, pathetic, beta mindset.

 

[tksniper]

"I need a wingman to help me get women" is just simply a pathetic mindset.

A real man don't wait for (or need) a wingman.

A real man doesn't wait for (or need) a woman to give him choosing signals (IOIs).

A real man goes out and makes shiit happen, because it simply needs to be done.

"My wingman Chris is sick, so I guess I won't be going out tonight" is simply a weak, pathetic, beta mindset.

I would agree with this. One thing I’ve learned from leading groups of men is that men do not trust other men when they are not proactive and make excuses to protect themselves from rejection.

It’s like who do you want in your fox hole? A beta b1tch or a go getter?

I think the main point is not whether or not going out by yourself is the best tactic. The main point is that any man who is afraid to go out by himself simply cannot be trusted as a masculine leader of men. And if men can’t trust him, do you think women will? Hell no.

Everyone can easily pick up on this fear.

If you have to go out by yourself because none of your friends can hit on women, then so be it. Don’t rationalize and make excuses for yourself.

The obstacle becomes the way…..to the point where the obstacle IS the way.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Going solo has worked really well for me. I pulled two, out at once, twice. The trick is you have to find that set that’s going to sit there and hang with you for some time and leave; or the other time I literally just hit a lottery ticket and we left within 90 seconds of my arrival, I still can’t believe that one. If you have social awareness, you can sit comfortably in your own space, and you have the ability to be witty and clever, this can work well.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

"I need a wingman to help me get women" is just simply a pathetic mindset.

A real man don't wait for (or need) a wingman.

A real man doesn't wait for (or need) a woman to give him choosing signals (IOIs).

A real man goes out and makes shiit happen, because it simply needs to be done.

"My wingman Chris is sick, so I guess I won't be going out tonight" is simply a weak, pathetic, beta mindset.

i don't even disagree with the premise but saying it like that is the kind of self-aggrandizing horseshvt i'd see in a clown book like "unplugged alpha" by richard cooper

 

[BPH]

so youve gone out alone a bunch of times to pick up girls?

Yeah. Honestly, I usually have better nights when I'm out alone because I'm not worried about anybody else.

As if to prove my own point, I went out last night with 2 of my friends. One is married, and the other is the one who just got over his 1-year dry spell.

The entire night, my married friend was complaining about wanting to go to a different bar because he couldn't stand all the college kids, with my other friend agreeing with him and not talking to anybody, before also complaining.

They just kinda went where I went the whole time. It's nice seeing them, because they're my friends and all, but going out with them really isn't doing me any favors in terms of getting laid. I'm considering just going solo tonight, if I go at all...

2 nights of girls BSing me isn't giving me a very strong argument to go for a 3rd.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I would agree with this. One thing I’ve learned from leading groups of men is that men do not trust other men when they are not proactive and make excuses to protect themselves from rejection.

It’s like who do you want in your fox hole? A beta b1tch or a go getter?

I think the main point is not whether or not going out by yourself is the best tactic. The main point is that any man who is afraid to go out by himself simply cannot be trusted as a masculine leader of men. And if men can’t trust him, do you think women will? Hell no.

Everyone can easily pick up on this fear.

If you have to go out by yourself because none of your friends can hit on women, then so be it. Don’t rationalize and make excuses for yourself.

The obstacle becomes the way…..to the point where the obstacle IS the way.

I share these sentiments.

I'd rather get rejected by a woman, based solely on my own approach and accord...than to lay with a woman, based on the help of another man.

I've come to learn that how you get the puzzy matters..even more than just getting the puzzy.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

i don't even disagree with the premise but saying it like that is the kind of self-aggrandizing horseshvt i'd see in a clown book like "unplugged alpha" by richard cooper

Gotcha.

I could have kept that last part to myself, indeed.

 

[tksniper]

I share these sentiments.

I'd rather get rejected by a woman, based solely on my own approach and accord...than to lay with a woman, based on the help of another man.

I've come to learn that how you get the puzzy matters..even more than just getting the puzzy.

You can replace the word pvssy with anything else. There are men who want to be fed, and then there are men who dominate and create their own abundance.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You can replace the word pvssy with anything else. There are men who want to be fed, and then there are men who dominate and create their own abundance.

So the question becomes, which side are you on?

And based on some of these posts, it's clear.

 

[tksniper]

So the question becomes, which side are you on?

And based on some of these posts, it's clear.

I got a soft spot for you @We_ArE_VeNOM.

Mainly because I went through the rigors of the game. I literally went through the most painful experiences so that no one else has do.

And better is what our market is waiting for. And I have no doubt that you will continue to come up with better methods.

We’re all waiting for you.

 

[BPH]

@Thebestthereeveris I decided I'd go out, so I'll let you know how it goes.

Expectations are low (just cus Saturdays are weak) but I want to have a night without a bunch of complainers.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I used to roll solo a lot, not clubs but regular bars with good crowds. Good for you, wings can be very overrated.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I’m tempted to try this soon myself. If I don’t head down the shore Saturday there’s good set of places not far from me.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Going solo is fine. I’ve had good results.
I travel a lot solo for work and have had to go solo.

 

[Mike32ct]

If you are an introvert, going out alone is preferred. An extroverted wing will “drown you out” or “steal the show” unless you are better looking than him.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

@Thebestthereeveris I decided I'd go out, so I'll let you know how it goes.

Expectations are low (just cus Saturdays are weak) but I want to have a night without a bunch of complainers.

How was it

 

[BPH]

How was it

Decent, but no lay.

I may have to switch the venue. It was definitely better solo without my friends crying about everything, but I AM seeing the same girls over and over again - and they're the same ones who have a problem with the age gap.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I love it. Solo sessions make you so sharp. One of the reasons I like them is that it forces you to deal with the groups. When out with a wing it's very easy to fall into the trap of only dealing with 2-sets. Also, you don't have to deal with wings endlessly procrastinating going out, not being able to handle rejection, and bringing down the whole mood with toxic attitudes.

All of my sessions will be solo going forward.

 

[BadBoy89]

Back in the day, I would get to the club right when they opened.* No pressure. Could chat with the bartenders to warm up. And the women that arrived early were bored because the place was empty. Music was still low so it was easy to talk. Win-win.

I know some guys can walk into a jam packed deafening venue at midnight and “get to work,” but that never worked for me.

*Arriving early definitely means going alone because it requires patience. If you go with a wing, 90% he’ll ruin it by saying “This place sucks. This place is dead tonight. Let’s go somewhere else.”

That’s tough. Arriving early by yourself at a club? I mean I could go to a hockey game early or movie early by myself, but a club, where girls are looking for the 6’1 Alpha Dog to score with? I couldn’t do it,

 

[Mike32ct]

That’s tough. Arriving early by yourself at a club? I mean I could go to a hockey game early or movie early by myself, but a club, where girls are looking for the 6’1 Alpha Dog to score with? I couldn’t do it,

It was scary af when I first tried it. Once I got to know the staff, it was much easier. They were bored and thus more friendly than usual.

A couple times I arrived too early. They hadn’t opened yet; but while I was standing outside, I had a few chicks come up to me to ask me questions about the club thinking I worked there. One of them showed me her slinky dress and asked if it met the dress code, I told her it was fine lol.

Back to your point, height wasn’t that big a deal in the early 2000s. Although I was nearly 5’11” then with thick hair, so I probably passed for 6’.