"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Going ONS Mode at the Club
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
breakdancing is much more popular in europe, in russia every dance i was at had breakdancing contest.
It isnt as popular in clubs because of space, but school and college dances are money for this.
You like a chick, you would like a ONS but you go for the kiss and she doesn't respond very well. Maybe she doesn't let you at all but other interest signals are still there. Spend some more time with her be fun and keep her IL high. Then close her, ask her to your place or whatever you have plans. You didn't get the make out session or anything else, she seems a little withdrawn on the stuff that is too sexual, close anyway.
Here is why...
If she is with her friends she wants to maintain a certain impression. Once they leave or you guys leave she may change, maybe not a lot but at least some. You may find that future kisses once you are alone are much better, you pretty much know your gold at this point. If you close her and maybe walk her to her car and she still backs off, then maybe stop there and go back into the club. But if she all of a sudden gets into it, you are probably in...
She doesn't want to lose her social standing with her peers.
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- Most girls go to a party to get wasted and find a guy. Most girls who are dating other men are too busy getting fvcked to really go to parties. If not, they are always by eachother so its easy to weed them out.
- Check to see what the girls are wearing. From my observations, the more a girl wants a guy, the more revealing her clothing will be. If she is wearing some low cut shirt (or something that resembles a shirt) and some really skimpy pair of pants, skirt, whatever, chances are she is there to get laid. Also how she does her hair. If its up, curly, and something out of the ordinary in terms of attention, then she wants to get laid.
- Most men as soon as they see a girl like that will hound her like nobody's business. This can actually work in favor for you. Why? Most men are AFC no matter how plastered they get. The sloppier the drunk, the more stupid things he will say to c0ckblock himself. I've actually seen the parties where there is a huddled mass of d1ck in the middle of a party and if a girl walks into the door, they are all over her. Of course their game is so pathetic that they all amass in the huddle less than 5 minutes later. So she is going to be wanting to find a dude that wasn't like those chumps.
- Being buzzed can work for you, being sloppy drunk will work against you. I know its a party but to a degree, it seems like girls want a sense of stability, even in the presence of alcohol. So maybe kick back 4-6 beers and thats it. Let the buzz take over and work your game.
- If she is already feeling you and you can tell, ask her to dance. Of course the dancing bit has already been posted but the dance is like the litmus test to see if you will be getting in her pants or not.
- Make sure she doesn't get too drunk either or else her friends will be all over trying to make sure she doesn't get wasted and then you might as well kiss your chances goodbye. If she is already borderline wasted and wants another drink, ask her to go outside with you. I've messed up a few times where I was talking to a girl, she was feeling me, but got way too smashed and all that happened was a waste of time.
To me its a degree of desperation of the girl. If the girl really wants some, it won't take much convincing outside what you've already posted. However if its a girl that is out for a good time but might do a ONS, you will have to jump hoops to convince and that doesn't do anything for me. Unless the rest of the men in the party are so wasted that nothing will happen then if she wants it, then she will settle with you. Settle meaning that she won't make you try to turn paper into gold in order for you to get some action from her.
ONS's don't do much for me but its possible. Its the desperate looking chicks that are the best bang for the buck (no pun intended) because they want some and aren't going to have any b1tchy emotional hangups about it. That means maybe a 5 or 6 but most 8-10 at a party, you will need razor sharp skills or forget it; even then you might still be SOL.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Just get a feel for how she's responding to you. After a song or two, if she's interested, she'll probably start grinding harder, moving closer to you, going lower, etc. It's not hard to tell. If you get those signs, keep dancing for like one more song, then go for the kiss.
I notice that some guys of all races and nationalities claim that women of their race/nationality are some how fvcked up. From my experience that doesn't seem true. There are quality chicks and some horrific ones of all races.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.