"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Going ONS Mode at the Club
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
breakdancing is much more popular in europe, in russia every dance i was at had breakdancing contest.
It isnt as popular in clubs because of space, but school and college dances are money for this.
You like a chick, you would like a ONS but you go for the kiss and she doesn't respond very well. Maybe she doesn't let you at all but other interest signals are still there. Spend some more time with her be fun and keep her IL high. Then close her, ask her to your place or whatever you have plans. You didn't get the make out session or anything else, she seems a little withdrawn on the stuff that is too sexual, close anyway.
Here is why...
If she is with her friends she wants to maintain a certain impression. Once they leave or you guys leave she may change, maybe not a lot but at least some. You may find that future kisses once you are alone are much better, you pretty much know your gold at this point. If you close her and maybe walk her to her car and she still backs off, then maybe stop there and go back into the club. But if she all of a sudden gets into it, you are probably in...
She doesn't want to lose her social standing with her peers.
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- Most girls go to a party to get wasted and find a guy. Most girls who are dating other men are too busy getting fvcked to really go to parties. If not, they are always by eachother so its easy to weed them out.
- Check to see what the girls are wearing. From my observations, the more a girl wants a guy, the more revealing her clothing will be. If she is wearing some low cut shirt (or something that resembles a shirt) and some really skimpy pair of pants, skirt, whatever, chances are she is there to get laid. Also how she does her hair. If its up, curly, and something out of the ordinary in terms of attention, then she wants to get laid.
- Most men as soon as they see a girl like that will hound her like nobody's business. This can actually work in favor for you. Why? Most men are AFC no matter how plastered they get. The sloppier the drunk, the more stupid things he will say to c0ckblock himself. I've actually seen the parties where there is a huddled mass of d1ck in the middle of a party and if a girl walks into the door, they are all over her. Of course their game is so pathetic that they all amass in the huddle less than 5 minutes later. So she is going to be wanting to find a dude that wasn't like those chumps.
- Being buzzed can work for you, being sloppy drunk will work against you. I know its a party but to a degree, it seems like girls want a sense of stability, even in the presence of alcohol. So maybe kick back 4-6 beers and thats it. Let the buzz take over and work your game.
- If she is already feeling you and you can tell, ask her to dance. Of course the dancing bit has already been posted but the dance is like the litmus test to see if you will be getting in her pants or not.
- Make sure she doesn't get too drunk either or else her friends will be all over trying to make sure she doesn't get wasted and then you might as well kiss your chances goodbye. If she is already borderline wasted and wants another drink, ask her to go outside with you. I've messed up a few times where I was talking to a girl, she was feeling me, but got way too smashed and all that happened was a waste of time.
To me its a degree of desperation of the girl. If the girl really wants some, it won't take much convincing outside what you've already posted. However if its a girl that is out for a good time but might do a ONS, you will have to jump hoops to convince and that doesn't do anything for me. Unless the rest of the men in the party are so wasted that nothing will happen then if she wants it, then she will settle with you. Settle meaning that she won't make you try to turn paper into gold in order for you to get some action from her.
ONS's don't do much for me but its possible. Its the desperate looking chicks that are the best bang for the buck (no pun intended) because they want some and aren't going to have any b1tchy emotional hangups about it. That means maybe a 5 or 6 but most 8-10 at a party, you will need razor sharp skills or forget it; even then you might still be SOL.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Just get a feel for how she's responding to you. After a song or two, if she's interested, she'll probably start grinding harder, moving closer to you, going lower, etc. It's not hard to tell. If you get those signs, keep dancing for like one more song, then go for the kiss.
I notice that some guys of all races and nationalities claim that women of their race/nationality are some how fvcked up. From my experience that doesn't seem true. There are quality chicks and some horrific ones of all races.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.