"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Going ghost and texting

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Sup Gents,
Short time lurker, first time poster.

I decided I was going to ghost this chick because, frankly at this point I have no idea where I stand. Spent some time hanging out with her, she didn't respond well to kino and seemed very low interest. I made the mistake of asking her if she was wanted to be more than what we were and she said no and left it there. I decided to give her a birthday card not too long ago and planned on just ghosting her.
Well today she texted me. Don't really know how to go about it, I don't want to be petty by just completely ignoring someone but at the same time I would like to work on other things and I have developed some oneitis for her so it sucks and I don't want to be sucked by it. I'm not even sure if what I'm doing is going ghost more or so I just want to get over this oneitis I've developed and maybe reassess things once my head has been cleared.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What did she text you?

Im sorry but the birthday card is for couples, it overkill. Asking her if she wanted more is also something a man is not allowed to do. You assume she wants more (like all the other chicks u are banging, remember) by taking action, and if rejected you brush it off like nothing and you can do a Corey Wayne if you like, "Hey, if you change your mind, give me a call" - or a text message in this day and age.

I dont see how ghosting is gonna work here when her interest level wasnt there, or so it seems.

Dont think of it like ghosting to get back interest, try to forget her. Take it as a learning experience. Most likely you wont get another chance with her if she is attractive.
 
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So I actually moved further 35min from where I used to live and she texted me talking about how since I left she no longer has anyone to workout with, which is what I would have usually done. I know I've made some mistakes but I'm over it I just want a fresh start in the the new area I'm in and if I'm not getting what I want from this girl that I'm not going to go out of my way to do stuff for her. I'm just torn whether I should just completely ignore her or I should just maybe respond to the text with a conversation ending answer.
 
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You're in the friend zone so move on.

You can try for fun to invite her over for dinner. She'll decline though. When she does, ghost again. Rinse and repeat until she submits.
 
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Thats what im doing moving on. But what I'm asking is whether i should be replying to text messages or not if I was to just ghost her.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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OP, revives exist in Pokemon games, not in dating. The interest is dead.

Just ignore her. She's not that attractive and you can do better anyway. Respond to that text if you want to be her new orbiter.

You are now either gonna get a beta role or no role with her. Delete her from all platforms and go get someone better. She already did, why can't you?

Case closed.
 
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bigneil said:
"Do you want to be more than what we are?"

- From the Worst Pickup Lines in History Archive
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Lol well we all gotta start somewhere
 
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Thats what im doing moving on. But what I'm asking is whether i should be replying to text messages or not if I was to just ghost her.
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You tell her what you want. Take her out on a date to get to know eachother, when she declines you say "let me know if you change your mind" and forget her. She is litteraly dead to you.

I have gotten hardcore onitis this last year so bad but you just gotta keep going, its a war out there. Rinse repeat, numbers game.

This is some jedi sht but if you show up on her door with a rose between your teeth while kneeling she might want to marry you and have your baby
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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bigneil said:
"Do you want to be more than what we are?"

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Im dying so hard laughing right now. You should of heard my irl friends when they roasted me too. I didnt say it like that but it was worse. You guys are right time to move on.
 
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