"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Going for the close: rules

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Hey all, I know making the close with a chick is the first step in getting a date, however..I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page here.

For example, if you start macking it to a chick somewhere (club, super market) and think the chances of you not running into her anytime soon....you naturally go for the close right then and there. If you fail to do so, she is most likely gone.

However, now as a grad student in Boston....I am living on campus at an all girls undergrad school (it is great)

I have already talked to two 7's that I met on campus. One convo was around 3 minutes and the other was maybe 10 minutes. I DID NOT go for the close because most likely I will run into these women on campus very soon in the near future. I feel going for the close right away in these situations makes you look needy, instead of looking like you are playing it cool.

Do you all agree with me on this?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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So pimp its scary

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Is you sense that shy might like you, then close ALWAYS RIGHT AWAY!!!

ABC - Always Be Closing!

What's AFC is waiting till the right 'time' to ask her out... the right time is when you meet her and catch a good vibe, then kiss or get her number.
 

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at least get their email addresses, dude
 

So pimp its scary

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Originally posted by reyalp
at least get their email addresses, dude
E-mail is a copout, at least a cellphone or home phone number that she WILL answer. hell, lately I've been getting a kiss out of a girl within like 5 minutes of meeting if the vibe is right. I gotta say, "Do you want me to kiss you>" is FVCKING BRILLIANT!!!

Just because it puts the odds in your favor and even allows you to save face if she says no.
 

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and?

remember your audience.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I see where your coming from mahon, i go to a pretty small highschool and it would be stupid to make a close when you'll see the girl around almost everyday.
 

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She was actually in the Cafeteria last night, but she did not see me and I was with someone else.

I am bound to run into her by the end of the month. I guess I will go for it then.

This is how it unfolded.

Last semester I was in the library (around mid December) the girl who I am talking about smiled at me. I did not do anything then because we were both busy with work. I did manage to say something to her before I left the library, but it was not really a moment to go mack it to her.

Yesterday I was in the book store and she was there. As she was coming out we made eye contact, I sort of smiled and said hi. She then said.."Oh, I remember you from the Library." We then talked for about 10 minutes and then she went into the library and I went about my business.
 
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