"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Going for HB 0

skinnyguy

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Do you guys think some guys should go for bigger girls just to get their confidence up?

Most guys have the problem of going for girls not in their league.

Sorry my title should be HB 5 lol.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Çharismo

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First off have some standards.

Second of all it's not worth it.

Third, you will probably feel like sh!t afterwards.

Fourth, going after women like that...you won't learn any aspects of "The Game" because it would be too easy.

Fifth and lastly...how the fAck you have a 1000 posts and are asking questions like this?!
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Going for HB0 is an awesome title. The HB scale is highly subjective. My friend will low ball girls I find cute then fcken give high ratings to girls I find unattractive. I get the feeling a lot of guys here would give what I consider an HB6-7 an a HB9 or perfect 10 rating. I only go after girls I'm into and that means I'm 100% into her looks even if I understand she's no trophy girl. To me an HB5 is average and therefore very bangable. The cute chubby chick or just cute chick who isn't quite a 6 gets this. Where I draw the line is below average like a 4-3 and hell no to what I consider a 2-1.

If I give a girl a 7 that means I find her really fcken hot. If I give a girl an 8 it's almost just like saying wow that 7 looks really good today, or just an understanding of the extra trophy factor to a girl. As for a 9 this is something I almost never see. It probably doesn't last. It's like Megan Fox in the first Transformers movie and probably only on screen not in real life. As for 10's no girl is perfect. I certainly see the perfection in any girl I'm 100% attracted to but I understand she's not perfect and that's important.

So yeah screw a 5 or 4 or what ever if you're into it. Screwing girls just to get screws if you're not into it though will make you feel gross. I've never done that and don't want to. It's trouble enough screwing girls you're 100% into. When I say 100% into I don't mean in love I just mean you want her for sure no doubts.
 

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It depends I guess but me personally i have a range and it also depends on how im feeling and what type im into at that moment. I have fvcked the really hot girls that walk into the bar/lounge and every guy is trying to talk to her but after a while that gets same ol same ol. I sometimes find a "geeky" looking girl cute and ill go for her. She may be wearing glasses but with a nice body and a cute girl next door look. Sometimes im in the mood for the thick girls, Big t*ts, Big azz but still shapely in the right places along with a very cute face. It all depends. I know i can get 9's but i also go for 7's at times. Overall, a guy should go for a girl he likes and what hes in the mood for.
 
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I'd say a young guy should start with any woman who is enthusiastic and interested him. Once he's got a couple of those in his rotation, he will have a bit of confidence and can move up.

Whether those are "HBzeroes" or HB8s depends on your personal standing when you start out. If you're Justin Bieber, you can "start" with HB9s. If you're an average shmuck, you may have to start with 3s or 4s.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Zarky said:
I'd say a young guy should start with any woman who is enthusiastic and interested him. Once he's got a couple of those in his rotation, he will have a bit of confidence and can move up.

Whether those are "HBzeroes" or HB8s depends on your personal standing when you start out. If you're Justin Bieber, you can "start" with HB9s. If you're an average shmuck, you may have to start with 3s or 4s.
Good advice, I agree.

However, would this, in essence, be categorized as the male version of branch swinging? Hypergamy?

Just wondering.
 

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I would say so. Everybody wants to maximize their "reproductive potential." For guys that means dating (and/or marrying, if you're so inclined) the hottest women they can find. For girls that means dating (and/or marrying) the highest-status men they can find.

Which is why I'm perplexed by the "manosphere" berating women for their "hypergamy." Everybody wants the best they can get. Most people even want better than they can get.
 

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Going for low value and then ditching them will not elevate their confidence, it will crush them, just the same as when a 9.5 broad doesn't text some SoSuavers back after a ONS (obviously I don't know what this is like personally).

As Charismo said, have some standards.
 

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HB0 - it must be a sh**** existence for her while the HB10 is having a pampered life.
 

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If she's DTF and you can look at her in daylight without throwing up, then why not?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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skinnyguy said:
Do you guys think some guys should go for bigger girls just to get their confidence up?
No, fat girls need to understand that unless they hit the treadmill, they are undesirable to men, which defeats their entire point as women.

Plus they are unattractive; how is that a confidence-builder?
 

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I think having zero limits in the bedroom adds about three points to the HB scale. And every time a woman says "ewww...I don't do THAT," it subtracts a point.
 
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