"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Going down on a woman who "looks" clean, but you barely even know.

Poonani Maker

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Do you do it or do you just finger down there and then stick it in? I may have the opportunity for a ONS tomorrow is why I ask.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I was going to ask the same thing. First though, if you're planning on a ONS, it's not really one since you must know her already, or going to a place with a sh!tload of easy girls. But.....I have wondered the same thing. I mean, I usually go down on the girls I screw because they obviously like it, sometimes it's fun, and they usually reciprocate. So what to do in a ONS or similar situation? I always heard that cunnilingus has a very low risk of std transmission, so I asked a few different doctors and searched the net. Turns out, it is safer than most other forms of sex, but....... herpes, and genital warts, which now is linked to oral cancer.. can be contracted through the mouth. As far as if she looks/smells clean, doesn't mean sh!t. Girls can have things they themselves are unaware of, and they will most likely lie anyway. One thing I did that worked pretty well was......while you are fingering her, get to where you can see her vag and check for any obvious sores/smells, yaddah yaddah. If all is ok, just lick hr cl!t and stay away from the actual vagina since the fluid is where an std's lie. If you lick her cl!t only, it's very unlikely to catch anything, and you can get her off the better that way, while fingering her. I know it's easier said than done, but it's worth the peace of mind.
 

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since most people cheat its fare to say that you can never be sure that you really know any woman... soo.. u should not ever do anything with anyone that could expose u to something u dont know about... but , like most people , u will cause ur sexual carnal urges are that strong... so have fun and goood luck
 

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One thing you can do is get a small sheet of saran wrap
out and use it as a barrier. I know I know it's strange
and maybe ackward.:rock:
 

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O.k. My post count was up, but now I can respond.

If at all possible, ALWAYS take a shower together before (and after even, or at least wash your upper crotch area in the sink when you're done) you bang a new chick. This reduces the risk of STD's. This is what professional hookers do. Condoms only go so far, so if the nearby areas are clean, its much safer.If you do end up going down on a girl, when you are done, hit the mouthwash, or hydrogen peroxide. Its a good idea, to not tongue very deep in a new girl either. If her pvssy has been washed, and you only lick the outside areas, you should be safe. Personally, I could never use a 'dental dam.' That would just be too wierd for me.

I usually dont go down on first timers, unless we take a shower first.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Short story of some of my experience in this.

For a long time in my life I thought that if I was to go down on a woman when we did it the firts time and got her to orgasm everything would turn out fine, I would get to keep her for at least a couple more rounds.

So this one girl I got down on when we did it for the first time, got her to orgasm (by cl1t and g-spot stimulation), but she didnt reciprocate. We fvcked but she wasnt doing much besides being fvcked. The next day I fingered her, no reciprocation. Fine, it can happen I thought, turns out it was a red flag.
The rest of our contact was via email. (She lived in Amsterdam, I live in Nijmegen, which is for Dutch standards a long way apart.) And thats where she broke it off.

From that time on I swore not to supplicate anymore by going down on her first and get her to orgasm. I want her to show some sexual initiative before I ever do that again.

So my advice to you is: you can finger her, take your time with it, but dont go down on her without her reciprocating. It gives her the power in bed. Dont be the slave.
This way you make the decision at least a bit easier for yourself concerning std's.

ps. There are cunnilingus-condom-type-things in the market. They are very unsexy though.
 

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Um...

Wow, I can't believe I am reading this. I NEVER go down on a female I just met--EVER. So many people have herpes and other things that are just as easy to get. And you are going to take a chance on some random girl that you JUST MET?!?! Sure, taking a shower works to get rid of some of the stuff, but not everything. And even if it did, wouldn't you want to feel comfortable around the girl before you went down on her? The fact that you have to ask tells me you are not.
 

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^^^
What he said.

If you've got any doubts, read this: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/13/std.report.cdc/

Many people hold the misconception that STDs come along with a visible sign, such as irregular discharge or a rash or bump. But, in fact, most STDs do not present symptoms, she said.

"That's how STDs are so easily spread," she said. "It's not people who know they have gonorrhea and who go out say, 'I'm going to spread it to all these people.' It's the people who don't even know, who maybe don't get checked up regularly."
 

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No way.
 

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Do NOT go down on her. And if you let her go down on you, make sure you wrap that sh*t up. You can't take chances when it comes to STDs. As pointed out in this thread, so many people who have STDs don't even know they have them!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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well i'm sure you kissed the girl prior to this, so letting her give you a BJ bareback should not be any more risky.
 

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Bros it depends on the girl. If she is beautiful and I am in the moment I will pretty much do anything with/to her sexually if I am feeling her on that level. If she is not I will not even look in her direction. I guess its quite polarized.

I have done what some people would probably consider risky sh1t but I have come clean so either im lucky or Std's are a big hype or maybe the saying the prettier the gritter is not true...who knows.
 

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Julian said:
Bros it depends on the girl. If she is beautiful and I am in the moment I will pretty much do anything with/to her sexually if I am feeling her on that level. If she is not I will not even look in her direction. I guess its quite polarized.

I have done what some people would probably consider risky sh1t but I have come clean so either im lucky or Std's are a big hype or maybe the saying the prettier the gritter is not true...who knows.
Kinda dumb to admit, but this holds true for me as well, when the girl is really hot, it's like I think to myself........she must be clean.
 

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why take the risk, r u really that urged to lick her out or wud u rather **** her brains out. That way both of u r happy and no one goes home with no unwanted suprises.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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this thread is pretty sad
 

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Jaggs said:
lol`what?

:down:

Women pee out that thing. I don't go down on women because it doesn't taste good and most women don't take care of them self down there. Also, I feel that it's too submissive.
 

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SharinganUser said:
Women pee out that thing. I don't go down on women because it doesn't taste good and most women don't take care of them self down there. Also, I feel that it's too submissive.
Dude, you need to learn some anatomy.
 

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It's too risky for me to take that chance, but I get where most of you guys come from when you think they are clean. I would finger her though and **** her brains out afterwards.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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