“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Going down on a girl totally kills your frame

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JohnyTheArrow said:
You can be best pvssy licker in the world but if -perceived- better guy will show up no amount of pvssy kissing is going to save you.
An interesting point. All things being equal, I'm sure a girl would choose to have the pvssy licker. But, as you infer, things are seldom equal.

Syrio said:
Translation: I'm a child who thinks licking pvssy is gross and I don't know how to do it.

Eating pvssy is enjoyable. If you don't enjoy it then that's your loss, go masturbate while someone is eating out your ex gf. It is not an act of submission - that is objectively false. And "alphas" absolutely do eat pvssy.
It's pretty clear that not everyone finds eating pvssy enjoyable. That may handicap them sexually somewhat, but I certainly wouldn't say it is childish. It's more a matter of opinion. Or rather, some guys like it, some don't. I wonder if guys in the middle east lick pvssy?

As far as being a submissive act, svcking c0ck is widely seen as a submissive act, why wouldn't eating pvssy be seen as such? Not that I think it's relevant.
 

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Eating a girl out can turn into an act of dominance and defiance too. Any guy going to town on a girl's pvssy who's had the girl demand that they shove their c0ck in her already, only to tell her "when I feel like it..." will know what I mean.
 

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one of the worst threads i ever read, not to mention some of the most b.s. analysis i've ever seen, especially from johnythearrow.

nothing wrong with eating pvssy at all.

if you think eating pvssy is submissive you're a dumbass, dominating a woman's body is not submissive, making her orgasm and cvm like crazy will get her to do anything for you.

guys who have no experience with women shouldn't be posting sh!t they have no fvcking clue about. period!
 

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Between_The_Lines said:
Eating a girl out can turn into an act of dominance and defiance too. Any guy going to town on a girl's pvssy who's had the girl demand that they shove their c0ck in her already, only to tell her "when I feel like it..." will know what I mean.
Yup. She'll literally get on her knees and beg you to stick it in. I had a girl literally try to rape me by getting on top of me and trying to stick it in. Never under estimate the power of eating a girl out.
 

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asa_don said:
if you think eating pvssy is submissive you're a dumbass, dominating a woman's body is not submissive, making her orgasm and cvm like crazy will get her to do anything for you.
Okay, do you think that a woman svcking a c0ck is a dominant act? Because she makes him orgasm and cvm like crazy?

I think it's all in the perspective here. Is a sexual act dominant or submissive? Rather than say "You're a dumbass", I would say there is no real wrong answer here.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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JohnyTheArrow said:
Well, looking at your age, I assume it's your only or main choice.

You can be best pvssy licker in the world but if -perceived- better guy will show up no amount of pvssy kissing is going to save you.
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Knowing what you're typing about would be a good thing for you to learn if you're able.
 

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zekko said:
Okay, do you think that a woman svcking a c0ck is a dominant act? Because she makes him orgasm and cvm like crazy?
that's totally different.

with your guy's analogy, just kissing her or sucking on her nipples would be submissive too since you're still going down on her different body part.
 

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with your guy's analogy, just kissing her or sucking on her nipples would be submissive too since you're still going down on her different body part.
Nah. That thing in some manner I feel, throws women in an addictive hallucinating state. If done again and again, they get addicted to it as if it is nicotine, and come back for it.
 

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Okay, I have read several threads where some guys advised going down on girls to please them.

Here is what I think about that. Sucking some girls pvssy is in itself a form of submission and giving away some of the power to her, which as we know kills attraction. For instance when we let an HB9 suck our d1ck and come in their mouth, do you feel that you are totally in control ? I for sure do! And so do women when you lick their pvssy.

When you go down on a girl, she will subconsciously feel that she has power over you, just like you feel you have power over some HB when you come in her mouth.

I have also read some posts were guys went down on plates! I mean seriously? Why would you do that? She is your plate, she is not committed to you, you could as well be eating some guys load, who ejaculated in her half an hour ago.
Exactly. I can still have the after taste of my ex-wife's ***** in my mouth 12 years later after that happened. Yuck, lol She let me face fvck her a little afterwards. Give and take right. That's why I theoretically like escorts, if they suck you then there is no expectation you have to lick them back or lick them first otherwise they'll get upset or be on your case about licking her, like my ex-wife. I wasn't comfortable licking and had to psych myself into something like that.
 

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You have a lot to learn in the bedroom if that's what you actually think.
 
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You have a lot to learn in the bedroom if that's what you actually think.
In my case, we got divorced a couple of months afterwards, so it that did make me lose the frame. She did not respect me properly afterwards within that marriage and complained about the financial situation and compared me to other guys who were doing better. At the very least, it didn't help with the marriage, so it's not that big of a deal in either direction.
 

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In my case, we got divorced a couple of months afterwards, so it that did make me lose the frame. She did not respect me properly afterwards within that marriage and complained about the financial situation and compared me to other guys who were doing better. At the very least, it didn't help with the marriage, so it's not that big of a deal in either direction.
I will restate...you have a lot to learn in the bedroom. If you think this caused her to lose respect for you, I promise you, you lost it long before that or else you have no idea how to handle yourself in the bedroom, which she would have already known long before that as well.
 

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This is what Grok says about it which I (as a woman) wholeheartedly agree with!

Shortened Version

"No, "going down" on a woman (performing cunnilingus) is not inherently a submissive act.
  • Agency and control: The person performing it can be fully in control. They dictate the pace, pressure, technique, rhythm, and when (or if) she orgasms. Many dominant men love eating ***** precisely because it lets them drive her pleasure, tease her, edge her, or overwhelm her with sensation while she's the one writhing and reacting. It's a form of dominance through skilled service—her body is responding to your actions. Think of it like a dominant musician playing an instrument masterfully; the instrument doesn't "dominate" the player."
 

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For those of us who know what we are doing, eating a woman out is anything but submissive. You can have full control over her in every way doing this. In fact, in some ways more than fvcking because your tongue gives you much more precision to hit certain very specific spots.

Dumb post from 11 years ago and still dumb today.
 

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Theres almost literally nothing you can do to guarantee another sexual interaction with a woman more than going down on her better than anyone ever has.
 

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Even if it WAS an act of 'submission' (Can be fun not to have to do all the work) I've turned my fair share into dommes by refusing to "put it in already!" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 

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I really hate Red Lobster, and most other seafood restaurants. They always smell like fishy vagina.
I really miss Joe's Crab Shack. I think Co-Vid killed off all the ones within decent driving distance.

This thread reminds me of the movie Downhill with Will Ferrell and Julia Louis-Dreyfuss. There's a scene where she is in a car talking with some other women about their sex lives. She says that back in college she used to give a lot of oral. And another woman asks her "Did you enjoy that?". And she says "I don't think anyone enjoys it".

I don't know how true that is exactly, but I thought it was funny. I do think most people perform oral to give pleasure, not because they receive pleasure from doing it. The pleasure comes in the pleasuring.
 

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But most women love having their sweet pvssy licked tho.

There’s a way around this.
Just sit on the couch and have the chick bend over in front of you, whilst spreading her legs and opening her ass cheeks for you,

That way she’s “bowing down” frontwards to your Male Dominance and Power.

….while you eat her tasty snatch.
 
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