"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Going call this girl w/ kid tonight to set up 2nd date

Immaculate

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Ok, so I'm gonna call this chic w/ a 7 year old for our second date. First date went good w/ makeout session at my place after dinner.

Now I know you are supposed to give the girl options like "we can go see a movie OR just come hang out at my place and I'll fire up the grill..." But in this situation she lives an hour and a half away and she says she likes to drive.

Now I definetly just want her to come over to my place... so should I mention the movie option or just come on over?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Immaculate

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
do not bring her over..if u want to potentially ltr her.

if u want just sex..then sure
It's not even that I just want sex. She's a cool chic to hang out w/ and we have ALOT in common. I enjoy her company, honestly. If it leads to sex, whatever. I'm just a lazy a$$ and don't want to go out lol.
 

Immaculate

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Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
Do what ever you want.

You lead she follows.

Just don't be surprised when she gets on the fast track and go straight for the LTR.

What you want is up to you of course just beware of single mommies especially at your age and higher.
^ good point once again OneArmed... My place it is, or nothing!

bwahaha!
 

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Dont date chicks w/ kids. The kid will always be #1 to her & you will be second. Its just baggage you can do without:....always have to get a babysitter when you go out.......trouble w/ the father of the kid not paying enought child support....you end up emotionally & financially supporting someone elses mistake.......Your only 27 years old. There are millions of babes w/ no kids out there.
 

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Where are my pills? One-itis is contagious y'know.... :p
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by penkitten
*throws fransico the bottle and runs*
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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Don't date chicks with kids?! Uh, if you're under 30, that's an OK philosophy. As you get older, that will narrow your pool by about 3/4's.

Also, I'd be impressed with a woman who put her kid first ... many do not.

Some of the 20-year olds here aren't living in the real world.
 

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Yes, there are alot of posts that echo the 'don't date women with kids'. I do agree that a good portion of women with children are looking for someone to either take care of them or be a safety net. But there are plenty of women with no kids that look for the same thing. And i agree with an earlier post. If a women didn't put her kid first I'd be leary of her.

To think a women with no kids has less baggage than a women with kids is a little shortsighted. That said, it's all situation specific. You still take what you learn here and apply it. It all comes down to whether you can handle be 'second'. Which doesn't make sense because if you got married and have kids of your own, you will become second anyway.
 

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I don't know what's going on but since Immaculate posted this thread I've met three women with children who have a high IL and I've actually gone out on a date with one. She's 37, sings in a rock band and looks like Liv Tyler. Why can't life just be easy?? :p

HEY IMMACULATE!!!! HAVE YOU MARRIED HER YET???!!!! :crackup: :D :crackup:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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