"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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felix692

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Hello again, some of u may remember me from a previous thread, but probably not! Anyway, i was after this girl who i thought maybe liked me but wasnt sure and who i (obviously) liked. Well, i thought she liked me but after reading some stuff on this website i was convinced that there was no way that she did and that id been going about it all the wrong way, being a total "afc". Well, looks like i was wrong and we've been going out 4 about a week or so now, dont get me wrong, im not saying that the info on here is rubbish, no way, cos theres some really good stuff. But it just goes to show, u never know. So take a chance guys, what have u got to lose? If she says no then its the same result as if u did nothing, think about it!
Cheers :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Playboi0323

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Also remember my friend, getting and keeping a girl interested are two different animals. But good luck!
 

felix692

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lol, i may have exaggurated a bit-i wasnt that bad! thanks for the good wishes.She seems pretty keen atm and we're both pretty happy with hows stuffs going so we'll see what happens i guess;)
 

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I don't remember anything on this site telling you to convince yourself she doesn't like you. If anything, this site tries to convince you that you are the best and any woman should be lucky to be with you. This site tells you to find out if a woman is interested as soon as possible, by phone number, date, kiss. If she rejected any of those, then I don't see any way that she is really that interested in you.
 

JJMcLure

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Originally posted by felix692
So take a chance guys, what have u got to lose? If she says no then its the same result as if u did nothing, think about it!
Cheers :)
I read your previous post and almost all of the posters suggested you just go for it. There were a couple of track but youve always gotta expect that.

The advice is always not to bother overanalyzing signals and to just make a move (ask for her number/a date). The only thing to stop you would be FEAR of rejection.

It appears that's what you did and it worked.

But anyway your quote above is correct, and it's good you have first hand experience to back it up. Reading is one thing, doing is another.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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