I got into this (bad?) habit lately of getting/going after taken girls, I somewhat bad, but so far my success rate has been pretty solid and the girls seem to like it too, its commitment free sex and always a good time. Am i wrong for doing this?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Going after taken girls
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
scrouds
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Vesper Lynd: Am I going to have a problem with you, Mr. Bond?
James Bond: No, don't worry, you're not my type.
Vesper Lynd: Smart?
James Bond: Single.
James Bond: No, don't worry, you're not my type.
Vesper Lynd: Smart?
James Bond: Single.
SleepyRangerMedic82D
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mtl,
It is by far easier to take another guys girl, especially if he is slacking and isn't holding it down. I personally do not advocate f'ing another guys girl or wife. I personally believe if you sleep with a man's wife and he kills you he is justified in doing so. That's just how I see it.
I will admit though that it is a lot more exciting and kinda hott to know you are banging another dudes girl.
It is by far easier to take another guys girl, especially if he is slacking and isn't holding it down. I personally do not advocate f'ing another guys girl or wife. I personally believe if you sleep with a man's wife and he kills you he is justified in doing so. That's just how I see it.
I will admit though that it is a lot more exciting and kinda hott to know you are banging another dudes girl.
women haze
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Whatever happened to the gentleman's code? There are plenty, PLENTY of single pvssy out there
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Hughman
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This.Raikojo17 said:
Bros before hoes. (nearly) Always. If I know the guy and I'm buddies with him, then I'm not going to try anything unless she's being very very blatant. (not happened to me yet, but I've seen it)
If she's just a random girl I'm doing my thing with, and she has a bf, I just keep on plowing if I get IOIs. Even if you don;t get anywhere, it's good just to perfect your game.
Its not the men that are the problem, its the women who are in a relationship for letting this happen. A man shouldn't worry about what other men are doing but what he is doing.women haze said:
Most good looking women have some sort of a man or men in their lives anyway whether its a boyfriend, a date, a fvckbuddy or an orbitor. At any given time a woman who says to you that she is in a relationship, is doing so because she is either repulsed by you or sh1t testing you. Women change their status all the time so even a woman that says she is taken today can be not so taken after the following morning if you catch my drift.
If you are successful then keep doing what you are doing mtlwlu, in this culture you are either a pimp who gets girls or an AFC who gets lucky. Its best to make the best of the current situation/trend.
donjuanapprentice01
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It depends on the situation
1. If the girl and bf is getting along well, and truly love each other... then it is without question WRONG! Stay away. All you will be doing is ruin something great and will lead to real bad karma later on ... but...
2. I see girls in "relationships" with guys, and they are very unhappy... either they feel they can't get anyone else (which is why they stay in a ****ty relationship, or they have invested so much time and energy in the relationship that, no matter how bad it is, they don't want all that energy and time to go to waste), the bf is not satisfying enough of her needs, is too clingy, too possessive, a control freak, etc... I see these girls as ripe for the picking tbh. If you can show her that you are better than her current guy, your golden.
1. If the girl and bf is getting along well, and truly love each other... then it is without question WRONG! Stay away. All you will be doing is ruin something great and will lead to real bad karma later on ... but...
2. I see girls in "relationships" with guys, and they are very unhappy... either they feel they can't get anyone else (which is why they stay in a ****ty relationship, or they have invested so much time and energy in the relationship that, no matter how bad it is, they don't want all that energy and time to go to waste), the bf is not satisfying enough of her needs, is too clingy, too possessive, a control freak, etc... I see these girls as ripe for the picking tbh. If you can show her that you are better than her current guy, your golden.
I.A.F.Y.B.
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If you feel its wrong then, dont do it. If you dont care then, go for it.
The only gentlemen code I have is.. No, to married women and never fvck your friends girlfriend.
The only gentlemen code I have is.. No, to married women and never fvck your friends girlfriend.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
KontrollerX
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"Am i wrong for doing this?"
The morality symps will say you are but if a girl is willing to hop on your hog for a night of fun she wasn't truly "in love" with the boyfriend anyway so in truth you're doing that guy a favor if he eventually finds out and dumps her ass.
Don't worry about karma or any of that bullsh!t the religious saps of the forum will tell you, it doesn't exist, cause and effect exists but the vast majority of the time guys are too pvssified by the feminist society to get a gun and kill you both or beat your face in for fvcking "their woman".
Only thing you need to be concerned with is gettin up in it and not falling in love with such a chick as she will do the same to you as she did to her boyfriend as she's a party girl and thats just the way she rolls.
And thats alright, you just need to know each person's individual quirk and use that quirk to your advantage without trying to make them something that they aren't.
Girls like this cannot be turned into housewives.
They are hoes plain and simple and you are to use them like you'd use the porcelain throne namely to relieve yourself with.
The morality symps will say you are but if a girl is willing to hop on your hog for a night of fun she wasn't truly "in love" with the boyfriend anyway so in truth you're doing that guy a favor if he eventually finds out and dumps her ass.
Don't worry about karma or any of that bullsh!t the religious saps of the forum will tell you, it doesn't exist, cause and effect exists but the vast majority of the time guys are too pvssified by the feminist society to get a gun and kill you both or beat your face in for fvcking "their woman".
Only thing you need to be concerned with is gettin up in it and not falling in love with such a chick as she will do the same to you as she did to her boyfriend as she's a party girl and thats just the way she rolls.
And thats alright, you just need to know each person's individual quirk and use that quirk to your advantage without trying to make them something that they aren't.
Girls like this cannot be turned into housewives.
They are hoes plain and simple and you are to use them like you'd use the porcelain throne namely to relieve yourself with.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Nothing wrong with it at all (so long as the man isn't a friend of yours.)
Keep in mind if she cheats on him, she is a cheater, and is not the kind of girl you want to be in an exclusive relationship with.
The man couldn't keep her attracted enough to keep her faithful, she's willing to cheat, she'd cheat eventually so it may as well be with you.
If you limit yourself to single women you're really limiting your options.
Keep in mind if she cheats on him, she is a cheater, and is not the kind of girl you want to be in an exclusive relationship with.
The man couldn't keep her attracted enough to keep her faithful, she's willing to cheat, she'd cheat eventually so it may as well be with you.
If you limit yourself to single women you're really limiting your options.
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This thread was insightful. Lots of things to wonder about.
women haze
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So it's a symp move to do the right thing and say NO to a taken woman? Maybe even explain to her that what she is doing is wrong, and that she should break up with her beta Bf before she cheats on him?
I'd say you are a pretty stand up guy for doing such a thing....Don't get me twisted I have no respect for hors. Yet, it take a man of strong wills and morality to say No and make the woman feel bad about it.
I'd say you are a pretty stand up guy for doing such a thing....Don't get me twisted I have no respect for hors. Yet, it take a man of strong wills and morality to say No and make the woman feel bad about it.
That doesn't work. They often just want a bit of fun on the side, and don't want to go through a break up at that point in time. Maybe their boyfriend isn't turning them on so they want satisfaction elsewhere. You're only hurting your own chances of getting with the woman since although she may want you, she isn't going to break up with her boyfriend for a fling with you (in the short term.)
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one mans ho is always another mans - wife, girlfriend, mother, sister, cousin, aunt etc etc. - i.e. all women have an inner ho that will come out to play every so often wether they are single or not ..
So go get her and if you dont another 100000 men will
So go get her and if you dont another 100000 men will
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.