Day 3 Week 4 Repeat
I say you're beyond that point, and getting rejections for their own sake will only hinder your game at theis point. Kinda like placing out of a beginner's course into the intermediate course.
Yeh, I agree there's no point me going for rejections rather than successes. I'm not quite sure about the logic behind week 4 - I reckon a goal of 15 or 20 number attempts (i.e. either success or failure when asking for the number) would make more sense than the current goal of 10 rejections. Surely going for the number means you're getting over the fear of rejection, since you risk rejection every time you go for a number.
This issue has cropped up again for me tonight (I'm just in from work again- see further down my post)
out of interest, what kind of chat are you giving these girls? ****y and funy or what? you seem to be doing alright whatever your doing.
maybe theyre glad soemone is finally speaking to them! is it really that easy?
Thats a tricky question to answer. I think the key as much as anything is guaging IL as much as what i say - as Bonhomme's pointed out a few times on this thread, if a girl's IL is high enough, it doesn't matter too much what you say.
My current situation is different to most guys doing bootcamp is that i'm doing most my week 4 approaches while doing my temporary job, glass collecting in a nightclub. So I'm constantly asking customers which drinks they've finished with, i can get a decent idea of a girl's IL by their response to this simple question - if they're responsive and give me a smile or try to chat or whatever, this is my green light to try to chat them up properly. Obviously, this situation is different to most guys, and indeed mine when i'm at uni and not working in the club, but i reckon the principle of picking the girls with the high IL still applies. I do use ****y/funny but not that much, only convo techniques i can think of is that i take an interest in the girl and what she talks about but at the same time, not just be a sounding board and to have some opinions of my own. Having said that, wouldn't say i'm any more than average at conversation, though i reckon i've got a fairly good personality naturally.
Out of interest mate, you had any thoughts on the reccommendation i put on a thread of yours to have a crack at bootcamp yourself?
Cheers for the link, englishman.
Ok bootcamp today, day 3, been working in the club again tonight. For the first time really tonight, i was really determined not to let anything (fear, nerves, hesitation, whatever) get in the way, and i got reasonable results. Early on, got talking this group of 4 girls sitting on the sofas, none of them were bad looking, though one definately stood out, she was hot (definate HB9, and exactly the sort of look i go for), chatted to all 4 though, all seemed interested in me and what i had to say and i reckon i made agood impression on them. I wanted the really hot one though and made sure i approached her later on when i saw her waiting at the bar by herself, i was like 'Alright how you doing',........ (normal chat)....., then i was like 'listen, you mind if i ask you a question?', she was like 'sure', i was like 'are you a single lady or a taken lady?', she was like 'Aw sorry honey, I'm a taken lady!', i was like 'ok, no prob'.
Counting that as a rejection, bootcamp talks about rejections when you as for the number, think that one was fair enough though, it was obvious i was cracking onto her.
So one rejection.
Later on was putting glasses away behind the bar, caught the eye of this bird (HB7.5-8) over the other side of the bar, i looked away, looked back, she still had my eye so i gave her a big smile and a wink, then turned away to go do something else. She actually then came and approached me, i was like 'I saw you eyeing me up from over there', she was like 'oh aye, it was just me, was it?!', fairly normal convo followed but with lot of kino both ways, i number closed her successfully after a couple of minutes, she was quite into me, she was like 'make sure you text us, won't you'
Then later on, approached this bird (HB8.5, blonde hair, dcent face, lovely body) dancing with her friend round the edge of the dance floor. She was fit and i'd spoken to her briefly before collecting glasses from their table and she'd seemed friendly then so i thought why not have a crack. Couldn't think of any good opening line, was just 'hiya, how you doing?' and just normal convo with good kino from there. Soon as i started talking to her, her mate was like 'be back in a sec, just popping to the toilet', thought this was a good sign. Again number closed successfully, though not sure i had quite the same sky high IL i had from the girl before.
In any case, i'm away back to uni in a couple of days, so the numbers aren't an awful lot of use, good practise getting them though.
So summary for day 3: 1 rejection and 2 numbers.
Thats 1 rejection and 3 numbers now for the week after 3 days.
Going to be tough to get 10 rejections this week, may extend the week if i don't manage it (notice Walden did this in his bootcamp, which is regarded as a great example of a bootcamp), or possible modify the goal of the week for me personally, as i mentioned at the top of this post, maybe 15 number attempts. Any thoughts on this?