GodsGiftToFatBirds Bootcamp Diary

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 4 Week 2

Yo
Gonna have to be a very brief post, as i'm heading out. Got 2 more 'half-convos' done (see earlier post for explanation!), so i'm now on 3 and a half for 4 days, a bit behind schedule. One was with a bloke i got talking to round uni, there was some kind of student demonstration march on campus against something or other, just basically laughing at them , 'wtf are they doing?' that sort of convo. Probably not long enough to count as a full convo tho. 2nd was with two birds in this shop queue, they were fit (HB8, HB9), got bit of banter going, they were like 'oh this baskets so heavy' typical birds, i was like' you can put it down while your waiting if you want', they were like 'oh yeh, why don't you put yours down too, cos your so macho?!' (my basket was practically empty lol). Then asked few questions etcbefore getting served. Again not long enough to count as a full convo so half again.
Anyways
laters!

 

[Tweek_1984]

Which uni you at mate?

 

[Bonhomme]

All right

You've got the right attitude, focusing on the purpose, rather than the numbers, as such. Just go with the flow of things. Got a chuckle out of the bit about the birds in the shop.

As for "cold" approaches, I',m with you in that I agree you at least nedd to get a bit of a connection going to work. A little bit of convo, a bit of kino, whatever. Though I've had weird things happen. Like at one music festival, I made eye contact with one cute (and quite inebriated) gal, and before I knew what was happening, she was all over me. She must have seen me out on the scene before, or something.

That kind of thing happens if you're reasonably fit, have a real good image, and carry yourself right. IMNSHO, there is way too little emphasis on those things on this board. Paying a bit of mind to your presentation can pay off really big, and make the whole bit about approaching virtually a non-issue, like giving out cold water in the desert.

I had one hell of a weekend, being surrounded by hot birds a lot of the time both Saturday night and last night. Got the hottest one's info, and I'll be in touch with most of the others as well.

Do not underestimate the power of "incidental" leg touching under the table, and such. You can get a bird really worked-up if you work with touch and personal space right.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 5 Week 2

Which uni you at mate?

Alright mate, i'm at uni in the Midlands, though i'm not saying which one cos i wanna keep my anonymity.

Like at one music festival, I made eye contact with one cute (and quite inebriated) gal, and before I knew what was happening, she was all over me. She must have seen me out on the scene before, or something.

Yeh man, i've had that kind of thing happen before. It's great when they're fit, it can be fvcking horrible when they're not!

Bootcamp day 5.
Went out last night to my students union. Went with my best mate, and 3 female mates. Was a good laugh, but not exactly the ideal scenario for pulling birds. Like my basic pulling method on the dancefloor is to get eye contact with a bird, smile at her, if i get it returned, then i'll either beckon her over or get over there myself and do my stuff.
When you've got 3 fit birds dancing with you already though, you don't get birds eyeing you up like you do when you're just with male friends, and its ten times harder approaching a bird i find without any eye contact or signs of interest.
We ended up playing the random game, where you got to go up to a random person and pretend that you know them, like slap them on the back, real enthusiastic and go something like 'Hey mate how you doing? Haven't seen you for ages, what you up to these days?' The idea's to pick a guy who looks a bit weak or nervous, cos they don't have the balls to say 'Who the fvck are you?' and they go along with it, pretending that they know you too, even though they obviously don't.
Its quite immature really but very funny.

Anyway, bootcamp day 5: did 1 full convo and 2 halves, so am on 5 and a half for 5 days now.
One was with this bird outside one of seminars. Got there a few minutes early and there were a few people waiting outside the room. She was fit (HB8) with massive tits, like she was wearing a sweater but they still looked like a couple of beach balls. Just had a convo about class and stuff, her phone went befoer went into the room though, so i went in 1st and took a seat with empty seats either side, sort of a test, see if she'd come sit next to me when she came in. She didn't. Lol! That was long enough to be a full convo.
Two half convo's were with two guys kicking a ball about near my halls of residence, and a short convo with a guy in the gym.

Thats all
More tomorrow!

 

[Soma]

I have nothing useful to post at the moment. I just wanted to say that you (GodsGiftToFatBirds) have the single, best, username I've ever seen. Rock the fvck on, man! hahah I love it.

Peace.

-Soma

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 6 Week 2

Lol cheers mate.
Bootcamp today, didn't actually get any convos done. Its funny, i actually feel my confidence has gone backwards a bit this week- i think its partly because as soon i completed week 1 (ie finished my 50 greetings), I stopped doing them, and so the confidence i built up in the first week has dropped a bit this last few days.
Even if i were to get the convos tommorow that i need to complete this week, i wouldn't want to move on to week 3 before i feel ready, so what i'm gonna do, starting tomorrow, is re-start week 2 but do week 1 in that as well (ie do 10 convos and 50 greetings to strangers in the same week, before starting week 3).
I know i can do week 1 no problem, but by doing it again at the same time as week 2, my confidence will be up and week 2 will be easier.
Any opinions on this are welcome.
More tomorrw!

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Days 1 & 2, Weeks 1 $ 2 (see my last post for explanation!)

Hey guys,
I didn't post last night as i went out clubbing and didn't have time before i left.
For the last couple of days, been following the idea i mentioned in my last post- doing week 2 while at the same time repeating week 1- and its been working a treat, my confidence is up again, which it wasn't really when i was just doing week 2.
Yesterday, did 6 hi's, all to birds and no convos, really cos of lack of situations. Soon as i started doing the hi's again though, my confidence returned, i was walking round with my head up again.
Went out clubbing in the evening. As I've mentioned before, I'm not counting convos from when i'm out drinking, if i was, i'd probably have finished week 2 last night.
Started early as i went to my mate's work party, where there was a load of free booze, and some of the fittest birds in the uni. I've got a few mates who do that job, so no-one really minded me gatecrashing. By the time we got to the club, i was pretty hammered, so all memories are fairly hazy. I know that i didn't get in the club till about half 12 and spent ages chatting to mates n stuff so didn't get in the game till quite late. Due to my drunkenness, my game probably wasn't the best. For example, i remember i chatted up this absolute stunner in the last 15 minutes or so. Got on the dance floor with her for the last couple of songs. I remember she had both hands on my waist, yet for some reason i cannot explain, i kept chatting to her all through the last 2 songs rather than dancing with her and going for the kiss. Doh!!!!!!!!
Then at the end, i got in a taxi home with a mate who was travelling same way as me, and 3 birds from his halls of residence. I was sitting in the back with this one bird (HB8-9 at a guess) and was chatting her up. When we were nearly home, i noticed that she had her legs entwined with mine and her arm round my shoulder. I remember thinking 'thats quite cool' but again i didn't act on it! Doh!!!! Alcohols a b@stard!
Anyway, that was another sidetrack unrelated to my bootcamp. Apologies to anyone who's just read it, but didn't want to.
Today, after attending my morning classes, I went back to bed for most the afternoon, waiting for my hangover to disappear. After that i went to get a bus. The bus was like half an hour late, which was good in a way cos it meant that i got 3 convos done First one was with this lad standing next to me in bus shelter. Got talking to him, unfortunately he was a bit of a gimp. He was nice enough, but like your typical 'pub bore', kept on rabbiting on and on for ages about gimpy things. He was quite effeminate as well as seemed to like me, i think he got the wrong idea from the fact that i started a conversation with him.
After him, i got talking to an older woman waiting for a bus, turned out to be kinda useful as she recommended a really good place for Xmas shopping, which i didn't know about. After she'd got on a different bus, i got chatting to this cute Asian chick (HB8). This was a much better convo altogether, got plenty of rapport and she was flirting with me. She came and sat on the bench right next to me so her leg was brushing up against mine, even though there was loads of room. At this point, i was telling myself 'I gotta get this birds number before she goes'. Unfortunately, at this point, the gimp came up again (he'd been talking to a gimpy friend in the meantime) and kinda joined in the convo, which completely ruined any chance i had with the Asian bird. To$$er.
The Asian bird got on the bus before me with a big smile and 'see you later' while i was left to endure the gimp, who got on the same bus as me and came and sat with me, even though there was plenty of room. Maybe i should have told him to pi$$ off, just didn't want to be that rude.
Anyway, got 3 convos done out my 10, plus another 3 Hi's today- not that important, as i can do them anytime i want.
Anyway, more tomorrow.
P.S. if the gimp reads this by any chance, i apologise for being a bit harsh in what i've just wrote. I'm not gay though, so go and find someone else.

 

[huge_guy_pimpin]

sounds good

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 3 Weeks 1 & 2

Yo
Didn't get an awful lot done today bootcamp wise, was quite tired and so not really in the mindset for going round chatting to strangers. Gonna get a good nights sleep tonight though and be back on my game tomorrow.
Did get one convo done, with a bloke on a train, about football mainly, few other short convos too which i'm not gonna count. Just 1 Hi as well.
Current scores after 3 days: 4/10 Convos, 10/50 Hi's (know i can do these any time i want but gonna start getting back to speed on them tomorrow so i don't have to do about 30 on last day).
Anyway i'm off to bed!

 

[huge_guy_pimpin]

Re: Day 3 Weeks 1 & 2

Originally posted by GodsGiftToFatBirds
Yo
Didn't get an awful lot done today bootcamp wise, was quite tired and so not really in the mindset for going round chatting to strangers. Gonna get a good nights sleep tonight though and be back on my game tomorrow.
Did get one convo done, with a bloke on a train, about football mainly, few other short convos too which i'm not gonna count. Just 1 Hi as well.
Current scores after 3 days: 4/10 Convos, 10/50 Hi's (know i can do these any time i want but gonna start getting back to speed on them tomorrow so i don't have to do about 30 on last day).
Anyway i'm off to bed!

try setting up a 10:1 ratio on chicks to blokes.

 

[Bonhomme]

Good that your confidence is up

Good work ... drag about the gimp, though. I also gotta figure out a good way to plow my way through c0ckblocking situations like that, without coming off as too much of an azzhole. Such situations don't happen often enough to really work on it, which is good, really.

Gotta get a little less pissed, though, GGFB. It's obviously messing up your game at times.

******

Odd weekend for me. Friday night I caught a great show with 3 very different, but all excellent bands, and got a bit friendly with a cute, very tall bird I occasionally run into. Her IL has wavered, but as of late (as my game has improved), I've been getting some better vibes from her, just by working her physically. I might be able to get her worked up enough to break through sometime soon...

Then Sat night checked out a couple more bands, and ran into a couple birds who know a gal who I've been on gain/off again with (actually the same gal who was all over me at the festival I described earlier -- these other birds witnessed it ). I held my cards tight to my chest, but they basically hinted I shouldn't give up on the gal.

Whenever I run into her the vibe is so bloody intense words can't describe it. We just about attack each other.... but it tends to break down on the phone, and it's still just about impossible to get a date with her. Evidently she chokes when she gets to thinking about it. I think she's deathly afraid of something, perhaps that I'd just toss her off? No cause for her to worry about that, because I've never vibed with anyone any better. Anyway, I've a scientist's curiosity about it, and am not about to put things on hold for her unless she steps up...

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Days 4 & 5 Weeks 1 & 2

try setting up a 10:1 ratio on chicks to blokes

Yeh mate, thats what i want to build up to. Think thats week 3 though and at the moment I'm kinda struggling a bit to get through week 2.

Gotta get a little less pissed, though, GGFB. It's obviously messing up your game at times.

Lol. To be honest, i weren't that pi$$ed off at the time, if anything i were a bit too nice and kept chatting to him. He did fvck up my chances though and i enjoyed slagging him off in my post!!

Whenever I run into her the vibe is so bloody intense words can't describe it. We just about attack each other.... but it tends to break down on the phone, and it's still just about impossible to get a date with her. Evidently she chokes when she gets to thinking about it. I think she's deathly afraid of something, perhaps that I'd just toss her off? No cause for her to worry about that, because I've never vibed with anyone any better. Anyway, I've a scientist's curiosity about it, and am not about to put things on hold for her unless she steps up...

IMO you're right not to - sounds to me as if she's trying to mess you about a bit- if i were you, i'd back off a bit, make her come to you, and even try get with another bird - if she likes you that much, she'll be desperate to get you back.
Either that or ask her out straight and see what she says, if its not a straight yes, then i'd move on. I can't be @rsed with birds thinking they can string me along like that, however hot they are.

Anyway, my bootcamp last couple of days. Its kinda slowed down a bit and its frustrating me a bit- basically had loads of work last couple of days and been stuck in the library so had very little chance to get anything done. Went out briefly tonight though- had had enough of my work by about 11 o clock so went out for an hour or so, was on my game fairly well, had the balls to chat up a few birds and ended up making out with one, who was fairly nice. This was with a couple of Stellas inside me though so not counting towards bootcamp.
In terms of bootcamp, done 12 Hi's in last 2 days (all birds now, make it a bit tougher) and just one convo.
Scores after 5 days: 5/10 Convos, 22/50 Hi's
I really want to do this week, think i actually need to start going out specifically to look for convos though, as in my daily routine at the moment, i'm in very few situations. Getting 10 in a week is tough though, much harder than i originally thought it would be, i admire anyone who gets through it.
Anyway, more tomorrow, if i've got anything to post (and i'm gonna try make sure i do!!)
Cya - i really need to get to bed!

 

[Bonhomme]

I meant the British "pissed"

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Gotta get a little less pissed, though, GGFB. It's obviously messing up your game at times.
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Lol. To be honest, i weren't that pi$$ed off at the time, if anything i were a bit too nice and kept chatting to him. He did fvck up my chances though and i enjoyed slagging him off in my post!!

LOL. Actually I was saying you oughta have a few less pints when you go out. I wasn't talking about being "pissed off," as in mad, but "pissed," as in drunk. I agree you were a bit too easy on the gimp, if he indeed rudely interrupted you.

Again, don't make a big issue of the numbers. I'd rather have 5 quality conversations than 10 forced ones. And we do have lives ...

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 6 Weeks 1 & 2

LOL. Actually I was saying you oughta have a few less pints when you go out. I wasn't talking about being "pissed off," as in mad, but "pissed," as in drunk. I agree you were a bit too easy on the gimp, if he indeed rudely interrupted you.

Lol fair dos. When as i say pissed as an Englishman, i do actually mean drunk. I know that Americans say pissed as in pissed off though, so i assumed thats what you meant!
Yeh i like the occassional big night, though usually when i go out, its to have a few drinks but not get completely hammered or anything.

Bootcamp today:
Have had very little time today, as I've got an exam tomorrow that i've done not enough work for so i've had my head buried in my books for most of the day. In fact, I'm just writing this while my dinner cooks, then after that i'm straight back to work for another 2 or 3 hours.
In spite of the limited time though, i've had a decent day in terms of my bootcamp. Managed 2 convos. First one was with this bird (HB8). Was walking through the university campus, there was some music group playing, trying to raise money i think, and afew people standing round watching. Went up to this bird who was watching, was like ' who's this thats playing then?', cue brief convo about the music group, then i was like 'you really got nothing better to do this afternoon though?!' (said in a funny way not offensively), she laughed and was like 'no i'm still waiting for my hangover to clear!' and i checked the time on my phone and was like 'a hangover at half 3 in the afternoon! Thats appalling!' She laughed and then carried on convo about where we'd been to the night before, where we normally go out to, where abouts we lived etc. Handled the convo well IMO, got good rapport with her and thought her IL was very hign, asked me questions, flicking her hair away all the time, lot of smiling etc, and bit annoyed at myself after for not getting her number- guess i'm still not used to doing these kind of cold approaches.
The ease with which i chatted up a fit bird in a normal everyday situation though gave me a lot of confidence and made me think of the possibilities if i can keep improving through the bootcamp.
Second girl i talked to was actually in the same situation but later in the day. This was more just a polite conversation so i won't bother describing it all.
I also did 4 Hi's throughout the day.
So my scores now after 6 days are 26/50 Hi's, 7/10 Convos.
I'm feeling confident though that i can complete the week tomorrow, and i'm determined to having got into a decent position with a day to go, especially as its my 2nd crack at week 2. After my exam tomorrow, i'm free for the afternoon with nothing that i actually have to do, so i intend to use the afternoon to make sure i get the tallies to complete this week, so i can get onto week 3.
More tomorrow!

 

[huge_guy_pimpin]

next time grab the number my friend cut convo short and ask for number and be on your way

 

[Bonhomme]

Use a script

Looks like you're getting lots of opportunities. Part of the problem with me not getting numbers was not knowing what to say. David DeAngelo has a great idea, which is to have one default approach. Develop a script, and stick to it if you can't think of anything else.

Mine is along the lines of "it's been fun chatting with you, what's your #?"

Remember again, if the gal has high enough interest, it hardly matters what you say, as long as it doesn't come across really weak.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 7 weeks 1 & 2

next time grab the number my friend cut convo short and ask for number and be on your way

Yeh i agree about getting the number. Why do you reccommend cutting the convo short though, out of interest?

Part of the problem with me not getting numbers was not knowing what to say. David DeAngelo has a great idea, which is to have one default approach. Develop a script, and stick to it if you can't think of anything else.

I think for me personally with the approach i described, i didn't ask for the number simply cos its not something i'm used to doing and so didn't think while i was talking to her ' Make sure i get her number before i leave', rather than actually not knowing what to say. I think 'can i take your phone number?' or 'I'll have to take your number' would be fine. If i was to think of a scripted line like you suggest though, it would be 'i gotta go but it would be cool to see you again. How about i take your number?'
In any case, i'll make sure i do get the number when i'm in that kind of situation in future!!

Thanks for the feedback guys.


In terms of my bootcamp, i was genuinely dtermined to get it done today. Unfortunately i left the revision for my exam today far too late and forced myself into a pretty much night long cramming session, which meant i got very little sleep before my exam this morning, and been feeling pretty much shattered for most of today with a horrible headache, feeling like doing anything other than trying to initiate conversations with strangers!
I hate making excuses though and i really want to get week 2 done, so i'm going to cheat a little bit and give myself an extra day tomorrow after about 16 hours sleep tonight!
Cya later, i'm off to bed!

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 8 (!) Weeks 1 & 2

Yo
Posting early since i'm heading out in a bit, going clubbing for my mates 21st, should be a good one.
Felt much better today after a good sleep and got up determined to get the tallies needed to complete the week. I did 15 Hi's yesterday inspite of feeling wrecked, and so the scores i needed today were 9 His and 3 convos.
Managed to get them all done really quickly, which i was dead pleased with. First convo- turned up few minutes early to one of my classes (for the purpose of getting convos done), there was a bird waiting outside the lecture room too, so i went over a struck up a convo. She was average looking (HB6.5), but with massive tits, the kind of bird you wouldn't consider girlfriend quality, but at the same time wouldn't say no to if she came onto you in a club.
She was very friendly, smiled a lot and seemed quite into me. Opened her with 'you waiting for .........?' (the class i was waiting for), she was waiting for a different class in the next room, so continued convo by talking about our different courses and then, since she was from Argentina and had only been at the uni for a few months as a postgraduate student, asked questions about how she was finding England and the university, compared to the one where she'd come from, and she asked me few questions too. Possibility of number close was cut out by this lecturer coming over needing to talk to her, co*kblock situation, so i was like ' see you later' and headed into my class.
Second convo was straight after, turned out the class was cancelled for this week, there were a fair few other people besides me who'd forgotten and had turned up. Struck up a convo with one of the other guys who was going in the same direction as we headed away from the class, talked about the course mainly, and other things about the university.
Third convo was early evening, was walking through campus towards the library, this bird (HB6.5) was walking in the same direction, practically alongside me. Hadn't got any eye contact or anything and wasn't a situation in which i'd normally start a convo but i was really determined to finish the bootcamp so i was just like 'you heading to the library?'
Turned out she wasn't, she was going to some departmental social thing in the next building and then going out after, this lead to conversation about where we normally go out to, stuff like that. Like the first girl, she was very friendly, got a bit of a rapport and seemed interested. Didn't number close her though, think i wasn't motivated to since i wouldn't have done anything with her number, since i wouldn't say shes the standard i'm looking for. Looking back, probably should have still got it just for the practise. Oh well.
Tought me a lesson though that theres nothing wrong with a really basic opener - plenty of times i've been in that kind of situation before and not talked to the girl simply because i couldn't think of anything clever to say to start a conversation.
Also got my 9 His done throughout the day. Was a good feeling when i'd finally finished and i knew that i had completed week 2, albeit with a little extra time.
I'm properly pumped up now for getting started on week 3 tomorrow.

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

Day 1 Week 3

Yo
Went out last night after i posted, was a mate's 21st birthday so was a fairly heavy night, although i didn't get too drunk. Wasn't on my best game in terms of birds, think i only approached 3 i didn't already know throughout the night, made out with the last one though, she was quite fit, an 8 at least, although it was nothing more than kissing.
Felt a bit hungover this morning but got on with the bootcamp none the less, was really up for the new challenge of week 3. Idea for the week is to have 10 convos with girls i'd consider dating, each of at least 2 minutes. Got the 1st of these done on my way back from my only class today. Had about a 10 minute walk home from this class, struck up a convo with this fairly cute (7.5) Asian bird, who was walking behind me, with 2 friends (1 male, 1 female). Had a good convo about the course first and then about university in general, she seemed to have high IL, should have number closed her really when i left her but didn't have the balls with her 2 friends also there.
Sh!t, this is becoming a kind of pattern with regard to getting numbers though, I need to stop having excuses why i didn't get them- this was a difficult, but not impossible situation.
If I put a post up tomorrow with excuses as to why i didn't ask for some chick's number, then you've all got my full permission to give me as much abuse as you want on this board!!
Also had a good convo with a bird in my class, but she wasn't one i'd consider dating (6 i'd guess), so nothing towards bootcamp scores.
Did 3 Hi's throughout the day as well, keeping doing them simply because i find it helps keep my confidence up.
Been out tonight as well, to my students union, stayed pretty sober though, just had a couple of pints.
Was a bit of a weird night - a female mate challenged me to a pulling contest, basically who could get the most, i was like 'yeh go on then why not'. Soon as we got in the union though, she was straight up to some complete random guy on the dance floor, snogged him for a bit, then was back rubbing it in my face, going 1 nil etc!! Fvck its so much easier for birds!
My male friends were egging me on to get back on level terms straight away, was kind of weird though cos normally i wait for a good level of eye contact/ sign of IL before approaching a bird, but i was feeling under pressure to get cracking straight away, so i was approaching all these birds all over the place (sober as well!) and getting blown off all over the place, before pulling this girl that i'd never have approached had it not been for the score! WTF - 1 all!! Later on, pulled this cute Asian bird (HB8) with great tits, i'm white myself but don't know what it is, i do have a thing for Asian birds, i've had quite a few before. Was soon all over her, feeling her up every which way and she was grinding up against me and was feeling up my co*k through my trousers. She was gagging for it basically, unfortunately i was too much in competitive mode for this pulling competition, was thinking ' right i've gotta go find number 3!', so i was like 'i gotta go find my mates but it'd be great to catch you later'. In hindsight, what i should have been thinking was 'fu*k the pulling competition, lets get this bi*ch back to my room!' Regretting it now, reckon she'd have been a great sh@g.
Anyway thats got nothing really to do with my bootcamp, apologies to anyone who's just read that and really didn't want to.
I'll post all my bootcamp related experiences tomorrow!
P.S. pulling comp finished 2 all by the way
P.S.2. Fvck i should have Sh@gged that bird!

 

[englishman]

u from yorkshire GGTFBirds?