God made it easy...

[enthusiast]

to get a girl. She either likes you or she doesn't. If she likes you she can only resist you for so long if she doesn't like you she will only tolerate your game for so long. A game is only an imitation of what she likes in a guy. She never likes the real guy because the guy is using a game to get the girl. Instead of just getting the girl because he likes her. A lot of you guys take the dork way of believing in yourself, learning a skill or what ever. Its the soul that commands the action and choose your beliefs. Learning a skill to get a girl is like selling your soul for the girl. You have a soul, the girl can either like it not.

Knowing you can and believing in yourself are two different things because yourself can lie to its own self. Thats how afc are stuck in the cycle. They keep lying to themselves that they can't.

Believing in yourself is irrelevant. You should focus on if the girl actually like you. Believing in yourself will actually blind you to the fact if she likes you or not. You guys believe in yourself because you guys want the girl to like you and because you are afraid of the truth. You guys want the girl to like you so much that you believe in yourself because you think she will like you if you believe in your self. Even though the truth would say otherwise. The truth might be a rejection or a yes and you are afraid to know so you believe in yourself. Its easier to believe in yourself than to actually weight the facts.

Once instinct becomes the belief your a master don juan.

 

[DonGorgon]

i wonder if this thread will last longer than your last one?

 

[splinterkb]

She never likes the real guy because the guy is using a game to get the girl.

^a. Girls will always go for the real guy that doesn't need to put up a front and act like something hes not
b. A real guy probably doesn't need to use game

 

[enthusiast]

She never likes the real guy because the guy is using a game to get the girl.

^a. Girls will always go for the real guy that doesn't need to put up a front and act like something hes not
b. A real guy probably doesn't need to use game

you just help prove my point exactly. You dont need game, you dont need stupid stuff like I believe in myself. Be a man and know she either likes you or not. Believing in yourself has nothing to do with attraction.

 

[splinterkb]

Believing in yourself has everything to do with attraction. Believing in yourself will make you calm and comfortable, which will give you confidence... confidence has everything to do with getting women.

 

[DonGorgon]

Believing in yourself has everything to do with attraction. Believing in yourself will make you calm and comfortable, which will give you confidence... confidence has everything to do with getting women.

ummmmmmm.... insnt there another thread dedicated to that...

 

[The Deacon]

enthusiast, I'm entirely aware of what you're saying. Shoot, the basic idea is true. It sounds REALLY good on paper. Heck, any one of us on the DJ forums can get a girlfriend if we really wanted. God has made it pretty easy to find a mate.

Here's the problem. I don't want just any girl. I want the ones that give me the fvcking butterflies in my stomach. I want the ones that make me feel those positive emotions like you feel in those romantic movies. An average girl just isn't gonna cut it. If I LOOKED at the world like the way you do, enthusiast, I would never be dating 8s-10s.

DJism isn't really learning about canned tricks and crap like PUAism, anyway. And, you can say what you want, but "either the girl likes you or not" is a really short-sighted view of things. Girls can change their feelings for you, especially in a club environment, rather quickly. Men are attracted to women mostly for their looks, women are attracted to men mostly by their status and charm. To suddenly lose status and charm (ie, by doing something socially awkward) would be the equivalent of Naomi Watts suddenly transforming into Rosie O Donnell. You just wouldn't want the girl after that transformation.

DJism/PUAism, in its perverted form is manipulation. DJism/PUAism in its purest form is simply learning social skills that make women sexually receptive to you. They're all learnable. Watch the Keys to the VIP episode with Cajun and you'll see how these "canned" social skills actually help men get the women they want.

enthusiast, you are either a great natural who knows too much to understand the brilliance of what he's doing or just another AFC trying to sound like he knows jacksh!t about something cause he said verbatim what an unaware natural said, judging by your post. Frankly, people like that just don't belong on these forums. We're here to develop our social skills and some understanding of what we're doing, ALONG WITH practice and more practice.

 

[DonGorgon]

^^^good post.

 

[enthusiast]

Its not believing but knowing that you like her and she likes you. Knowing she likes you will make you comfortable and calm. Not knowing no matter how hard you believe in yourself will not. GET IT!

 

[DonGorgon]

Its not believing but knowing that you like her and she likes you. Knowing she likes you will make you comfortable and calm. Not knowing no matter how hard you believe in yourself will not. GET IT!

Women can like you one day then drop you the next you never know what you gonna get ..

 

[ready123]

Its not believing but knowing that you like her and she likes you. Knowing she likes you will make you comfortable and calm. Not knowing no matter how hard you believe in yourself will not. GET IT!

you're trying to mindfvck the board?

in the context of inner game, knowing and believing are the same thing. stop being pretentious

 

[splinterkb]

Its not believing but knowing that you like her and she likes you. Knowing she likes you will make you comfortable and calm. Not knowing no matter how hard you believe in yourself will not. GET IT!

No, I dont think you get it. You either believe in yourself or you dont.. and to get confidence its essential. Confidence is what attracts women.. If you know a girl likes you but you don't believe in yourself, you probably wont have the balls to make a move on her. You need to believe in yourself because it shows on the outside whether you notice or not.

 

[enthusiast]

enthusiast, I'm entirely aware of what you're saying. Shoot, the basic idea is true. It sounds REALLY good on paper. Heck, any one of us on the DJ forums can get a girlfriend if we really wanted. God has made it pretty easy to find a mate.

Here's the problem. I don't want just any girl. I want the ones that give me the fvcking butterflies in my stomach. I want the ones that make me feel those positive emotions like you feel in those romantic movies. An average girl just isn't gonna cut it. If I LOOKED at the world like the way you do, enthusiast, I would never be dating 8s-10s.

DJism isn't really learning about canned tricks and crap like PUAism, anyway. And, you can say what you want, but "either the girl likes you or not" is a really short-sighted view of things. Girls can change their feelings for you, especially in a club environment, rather quickly. Men are attracted to women mostly for their looks, women are attracted to men mostly by their status and charm. To suddenly lose status and charm (ie, by doing something socially awkward) would be the equivalent of Naomi Watts suddenly transforming into Rosie O Donnell. You just wouldn't want the girl after that transformation.

DJism/PUAism, in its perverted form is manipulation. DJism/PUAism in its purest form is simply learning social skills that make women sexually receptive to you. They're all learnable. Watch the Keys to the VIP episode with Cajun and you'll see how these "canned" social skills actually help men get the women they want.

enthusiast, you are either a great natural who knows too much to understand the brilliance of what he's doing or just another AFC trying to sound like he knows jacksh!t about something cause he said verbatim what an unaware natural said, judging by your post. Frankly, people like that just don't belong on these forums. We're here to develop our social skills and some understanding of what we're doing, ALONG WITH practice and more practice.

Learning a skill to get a HOT babe is like learning how to walk its your job. My point is you don't need to believe in yourself. You just have to know that you can get her. You have to know you can get her. Believing in yourself is irrelevant.

 

[DonGorgon]

you're trying to mindfvck the board?

hmmmmmmmm

 

[splinterkb]

Dude knowing you can get her is believing you can get her.. same ****ing thing.

 

[enthusiast]

you're trying to mindfvck the board?

in the context of inner game, knowing and believing are the same thing. stop being pretentious

Knowing I can get a girl because I have done it before is fact. Believing in yourself and only yourself is superficial therefore stupid. I am all for confidence but not in believing in self but in knowing it can be done.

 

[DonGorgon]

Dude knowing you can get her is believing you can get her.. same ****ing thing.

But what if after all the mental mubo jumbo, you dont get her... what would that mean???

 

[enthusiast]

Dude knowing you can get her is believing you can get her.. same ****ing thing.

Knowing you can and believing in yourself are two different things because yourself can lie to its own self. Thats how afc are stuck in the cycle. They keep lying to themselves. Thats why they don't listen when you tell them that they can do it even if you show them.

 

[DonGorgon]

Knowing you can and believing in yourself are two different things because yourself can lie to its own self. Thats how afc are stuck in the cycle. They keep lying to themselves.

But what if one's reality is that they think they can get her but they cant actually get her... If they think extra hard that they can will it override the fact that they cant... where is the point of convergence between mind and matter?

 

[splinterkb]

To know you can pick up the chick.. you need to believe in yourself that you can. Knowing is essentially a lie if you put it that way, because you don't really know if you can.. you are just assuming. And by assuming that, you have to believe in yourself that you can pick up that chick. They're the same thing either way you look at it, just different wording. All it comes down to is confidence, which is completely based off of believing in yourself.