God made it easy...

[Protonoto]

Please stop this crap, what's the point of making another post about the same thing?

 

[DonGorgon]

All it comes down to is confidence, which is completely based off of believing in yourself.

90% of your confidence comes from having a solid track record of successful PU$$Y getting. 10% is from mental mumbojumbo.

 

[splinterkb]

90% of your confidence comes from having a solid track record of successful PU$$Y getting. 10% is from mental mumbojumbo.

That is completely untrue. Confidence is 100% mental. Being successful with women only embraces confidence.. it doesn't make it. Just for the sake of the arguement.. How would you explain a person with high confidence that has never gotten any *****?

 

[enthusiast]

Believing in yourself is irrelevant. You should focus on if the girl actually like you. Believing in yourself will actually blind you to the fact if she likes you or not. You guys believe in yourself because you guys want the girl to like you and because you are afraid the truth. The truth might be a rejection or a yes and you are afraid to know so you believe in yourself. Its easier to believe in yourself than to actually weight the facts.

 

[ready123]

Learning a skill to get a HOT babe is like learning how to walk its your job. My point is you don't need to believe in yourself. You just have to know that you can get her. You have to know you can get her. Believing in yourself is irrelevant.

here's the bigger picture - inner game vs outer game

gaming a girl is like going to a job interview. knowing or believing or whatever you want to call (inner game) is only half of it. to get that job, you also need to develop social awareness of your behaviors and image and streamline it to get results. you need to know how to dress, how to field certain questions, what you're subcommunicating, etc. that's what outer game is - a structured model of what works and what doesn't, except in the context of talking to women

those who got their inner game down but lack any outer game lose that point of convergence because they can't results. they only got half of it, and it's not the applicable half

that this guy thinks all game is inner game tells me he's either a natural who doens't know he's a natural, or he has no clue what he's talking about

 

[DonGorgon]

That is completely untrue. Confidence is 100% mental. Being successful with women only embraces confidence.. it doesn't make it. Just for the sake of the arguement.. How would you explain a person with high confidence that has never gotten any *****?

How will your confidence be affected by 10000000 failures in a row?? Positively or negatively.

 

[enthusiast]

here's the bigger picture - inner game vs outer game

gaming a girl is like going to a job interview. knowing or believing or whatever you want to call (inner game) is only half of it. to get that job, you also need to develop social awareness of your behaviors and image and streamline it to get results. you need to know how to dress, how to field certain questions, what you're subcommunicating, etc. that's what outer game is - a structured model of what works and what doesn't, except in the context of talking to women

those who got their inner game down but lack any outer game lose that point of convergence because they can't results. they only got half of it, and it's not the applicable half

that this guy thinks all game is inner game tells me he's either a natural who doens't know he's a natural, or he has no clue what he's talking about

Your so off topic and geek talking its hilarious. My point that I been trying to hammer down to you guys is. Believing in yourself is confidence base on superstition. Knowing you can base on the whole situation make sense more.

 

[DonGorgon]

Your so off topic and geek talking its hilarious. My point that I been trying to hammer down to you guys is. Believing in yourself is confidence base on superstition. Knowing you can base on the whole situation make sense more.

did you just say "superstition" like trols and unicorns..??:crackup:

 

[enthusiast]

How will your confidence be affected by 10000000 failures in a row?? Positively or negatively.

If thats even possible...but the truth is meeting 30 women is enough to give you on the right perspective. Meeting 30 more will get you on the fast lane. Meeting 10 more will get you laid.

 

[DonGorgon]

If thats even possible...but the truth is meeting 30 women is enough to give you on the right perspective. Meeting 30 more will get you on the fast lane. Meeting 10 more will get you laid.

not if you are ugly and broke and have no game and have failed 100000 times so have no confidence. Even Fat HB-3s are rejecting men these days...

 

[Flabbergasped?]

I sort of see what enthusiast is saying.

Back when I was AFC (maybe I still am), the thought was "oh, I'm the ****, blah blah, i think I can get this or that person." But now, there isn't much thinking involved. I just know if I can get someone. It's a gut feeling that had no thought associated with it. The self-confidence doesn't come from any thought process, but from an innate raison d'etre.

AFCs will believe in themselves, but that involves necessarily thinking about it and fvcking up when they're out in the field.. Believing something and knowing it are different.

 

[enthusiast]

did you just say "superstition" like trols and unicorns..??:crackup:

Yes people fall when they put their confidence on themselves. People who doesnt have any confidence but know that if you do A you will get B and then C usually wins and beats the over confident big heads.

 

[Interceptor]

A belief is simply a piece of information, a FACT..that is tied to Emotion.
Becasue YOU care abou tthat particualr IDEA

beleifs can change.

Knowing could be argued is a belief that is geared to an ACTUAL firsthand EXPERIENCE.


What we may be talking about , Semantics really, is betwen the difference of book learning versus street learning.

(ultimately, there is no pure 'book' learning, as ALL knowledge must be Processed in order for it to be understood and integrated)

but to have great success, you need BOTH.

This may be a variation iof the old "Just do it" mentality or the "dont think about it!' mentality. Against the "Work on yourself first BEFORE you go out."
Both have some merit.

I would also say, that working on your Inner Game before any really major things gives you an edge that simply daily repeted expereince does not.

Working on Inner Game AWAY from the Field, gives you Well Focused TIME to Self Reflect and rewire your mental programming, beliefs, and paradigms.
However , in field , REAL TIME SKill is Necessary as well.

They are not mutually exclusive, as you will eventually find out.

One reinforces the other.

You learn "book"/ Self Examination knowledge, then ..YOU APPLY it in the real world.

You observe your RESULTS, if any, good or bad, without emotional attachment, and then REVIEW what you may need to work on to improve and get RESULTS that YOU want.


So there ARE limitations to correclty expressing the MEANING BEHIND the "Just do it" , "Dont think about it" notions.


Both of which, when taken out of CONTEXT completely fail the user as empowering notions to maintain.

I also think we get back into the "routine' vs "natural' debate in its many forms.
I think it is great to debate it and formulate hypotheses.

Becasue it makes you more focuse and driven to get what you want.

At the end of the day, it is about building a Better Life, the Life YOU WANT..

But, I do beleive we have to agree that many of us have intrinsic value.
This value is attractive to women.
BUT..
many of us have to do some UNCOVERING to get under all those toxic beliefs to get that intrinsic value to shine through.

And many of us, only need to sharpen some outside technical skills to let out natural charming and attractive self to shine through

I know that EVERYONE can seriously benefit from Inner Game work under any circumstances though...

 

[DonGorgon]

^^^wow he is going deep now looks like he has been doing some reading too...

 

[splinterkb]

here's the bigger picture - inner game vs outer game

gaming a girl is like going to a job interview. knowing or believing or whatever you want to call (inner game) is only half of it. to get that job, you also need to develop social awareness of your behaviors and image and streamline it to get results. you need to know how to dress, how to field certain questions, what you're subcommunicating, etc. that's what outer game is - a structured model of what works and what doesn't, except in the context of talking to women

those who got their inner game down but lack any outer game lose that point of convergence because they can't results. they only got half of it, and it's not the applicable half

that this guy thinks all game is inner game tells me he's either a natural who doens't know he's a natural, or he has no clue what he's talking about

Ok.. I don't know how to make this any clearer. Inner game is the most important part.. your "outer" game relies on it. Learning how to answer certain questions and subcommunication will only give off false confidence. If you have confidence, it will show on the outside, and women can see that. Confidence is the base for all this other bull****.. All those gimicks may help in very certain situations, but it will probably show that you're completely uncomfortable on the inside, which then it won't matter what you say or how you act.

Your outer game is based off your inner game. If you're confident and comfortable, you really won't need to try and look like you are. It will come naturally, which is what will be the most attractive to women. If you have your inner game down, the outer game will come with it.

Putting up a front and trying to fool the girl into thinking you're something that you're not isn't the way to go at all. What happens if you practice all those tricks... you're successful so far.. and then you get to the point with her where you quit learning all of that ****... what happens then? She will find out who you truly are, and probably be turned off by you acting so fake. If she sees you walkin around and acting like you're hot ****, and then you talk to her and she finds out that you're a complete dork... then you're f*cked.

All in all.. confidence is key. It affects what you say, what you're subcommunicating, how you walk, all of that. It shows that you're comfortable with who you are, and know what you want. It is the number 1 turn on for all women, and will never change. (Dressing good never hurts btw.. you got that part right)

How will your confidence be affected by 10000000 failures in a row?? Positively or negatively. <-- It will probably hurt your confidence.. whats your point?

 

[enthusiast]

A belief is simply a piece of information, a FACT..that is tied to Emotion.
Becasue YOU care abou tthat particualr IDEA

beleifs can change.

Knowing could be argued is a belief that is geared to an ACTUAL firsthand EXPERIENCE.


What we may be talking about , Semantics really, is betwen the difference of book learning versus street learning.

(ultimately, there is no pure 'book' learning, as ALL knowledge must be Processed in order for it to be understood and integrated)

but to have great success, you need BOTH.

This may be a variation iof the old "Just do it" mentality or the "dont think about it!' mentality. Against the "Work on yourself first BEFORE you go out."
Both have some merit.

I would also say, that working on your Inner Game before any really major things gives you an edge that simply daily repeted expereince does not.

Working on Inner Game AWAY from the Field, gives you Well Focused TIME to Self Reflect and rewire your mental programming, beliefs, and paradigms.
However , in field , REAL TIME SKill is Necessary as well.

They are not mutually exclusive, as you will eventually find out.

One reinforces the other.

You learn "book"/ Self Examination knowledge, then ..YOU APPLY it in the real world.

You observe your RESULTS, if any, good or bad, without emotional attachment, and then REVIEW what you may need to work on to improve and get RESULTS that YOU want.


So there ARE limitations to correclty expressing the MEANING BEHIND the "Just do it" , "Dont think about it" notions.


Both of which, when taken out of CONTEXT completely fail the user as empowering notions to maintain.

I also think we get back into the "routine' vs "natural' debate in its many forms.
I think it is great to debate it and formulate hypotheses.

Becasue it makes you more focuse and driven to get what you want.

At the end of the day, it is about building a Better Life, the Life YOU WANT..

But, I do beleive we have to agree that many of us have intrinsic value.
This value is attractive to women.
BUT..
many of us have to do some UNCOVERING to get under all those toxic beliefs to get that intrinsic value to shine through.

And many of us, only need to sharpen some outside technical skills to let out natural charming and attractive self to shine through

I know that EVERYONE can seriously benefit from Inner Game work under any circumstances though...

I got this from David DeAngelo and he got it from somewhere...anyways.

They did a study on fish on the aquarium which have never seen a female in its entire life and when put next to a female fish the two of them mate and had babies.

Anyways my point is self confidence and all this believes that seem like mombo jumbo to me is not necessary.

If you drop all your beliefs...forget about everything society and your mom ever told you about women. You can still get a hot babe. In fact you will realize that those beliefs are just stopping your success.

Just like the fish who dont know anything when the fish saw its female mate they mate and have babies.

 

[Interceptor]

Exactly, Enthusiast.
There is an instrinsic value that ALL men have.
We need to work on recognizing this and empowering men to see this for themselves.

 

[Interceptor]

^^^wow he is going deep now looks like he has been doing some reading too...

No, Im very shallow. And Im illiterate.


I feel your pain...

 

[DonGorgon]

No, Im very shallow. And Im illiterate.


I feel your pain...

What pain ?? I feel fine.

 

[enthusiast]

Exactly, Enthusiast.
There is an instrinsic value that ALL men have.
We need to work on recognizing this and empowering men to see this for themselves.

Thank you...finally someone who get my point.

Once instinct becomes the belief your a master don juan.