"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Gladiators!::Approach Anxiety Competition!

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---> To the Colosseum my brothers!

I was thinking for a while about how to conquer my AA. Since i am very competitive and also don't like to let people down, why not start a competition.
Sometimes forcing people(myself) out of their shell is the only/best way.

Since most of my friends are in relationships or don't believe in approaching random girls i thought some of the guys on here would appreciate this.

This can also help people get out of their comfort zones.

I will try to make this well balanced so people with strengths in some fields and weaknesses in others can still participate/finish and improve.

This is slightly different from the DJ bible in the sense that we are here to PUSH each other, compete against each other, which will hopefully drive us to break out of this shell completely. Real men enjoy good competition so we should strive to help each other overcome these obstacles and hopefully at the end we will have a true gladiator. We're not trying to crack the shell, we are trying to BREAK IT!

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The competition will be done in tournament style elimination with task's that need to be completed each week. The unfortunate many who do not complete their tasks will be unable to officially continue on in the tournament.

Task example's (real tasks will be set forth in a later post after I gather census about the publics feel about the competition):

Objective 1:Obtain 1 number and one rejection from number closing. You must ask for the number and either get it or get rejected. The reason why its one success and failure is because people sometimes do one approach and either get setback by rejection and discontinue or become content with success and discontinue. By continuing the approaches to at least 2 or more it will be easier to built a comfortability approaching.


Contestant Rules:

1.) No veterans (though you may comment in the thread you cannot be a participant in the games, you're skill level would not be fairly matched to the newbies. We know who you guys are haha)

2.) Tasks must be completed and posted on time. Estimated 1 week time span for each tash/objective. Start on monday and you must post by sunday 11:59pm or you are eliminated.

3.) Encouragement and tips are highly recommended as to create better/more fierce competition so that we can better ourselves and better each other.

4.) Just because you fair well with the opposite sex doesn't mean you fair well in approaches/AA. If you are one of the guys like me that has women approach you but cannot approach, you're welcome to join in.

5.) Do not lie about your approaches/tasks. We are here to improve, faking improvement does nothing for yourself. Failure is only another step towards success.

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Extra's:

There may be bonus task's for the eliminated to redeem themselves. These will obviously be more difficult and out of your comfort zone more than the normal task's but if completed you will join back with your brothers on the current coming tasks.

At the very end of the Tournament, if there is only one survivor, he will be crowned champion. If there are multiple survivors, the crowd will choose who they want to be the champion.



ARE YOU IN?


NOTES:
Objective/tasks are still yet to be determined.
Whether or not enough people join will also determine whether this will take off.
Duration of the task's are TBD.

more to come.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This sounds like a pretty good idea I hope you get some people to join in the for the competition, ideally 16 or 32 people would be good for this.
 

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sounds like a cool idea, one suggestion though. Rather than a week by week thing, post 10 "stages" and the first to complete all 10 wins, with people posting how and when they complete each stage such as e.g.

1- get 5 rejections from women.
2- get 1 number
3-get 1 reply from a number.
4- get a 2nd number.
etc etc etc.

This is your love child though dude you go with it.
 

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I'm thinking start off slow and easy and gradually pick up the pace as we become more experienced.

lets say week 1 is 1 number and 1 rejection from number closing or 2 of either. You can do this anywhere in your comfort zone. Day, night, friend of a friend, etc.

than later one it moves to something more difficult such as day approach stranger. You need to get 3 numbers and 1 rejection (either or flip flopped but has to be 1:3 or 3:1)and also arrange at least one first date.

currently at work so i am strapped for time to work on this until tomorrow. I will post task's and such tomorrow.
 

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I've been lurking patiently for something like this. I'm in when does this sh!t start man? I'm tired of handing my ballz to these women. Let's do this...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Okay. So I will keep tally of all the participants in an Excel sheet. No one will have to worry about tracking as i will track it all and report to the board as to the status of the objectives but all participants must post their accomplishments or failures on the forum to the public. No PM's or excuses.

The objective will be weekly to keep all participants on their toes. If they get pushed to 1.5 weeks or 2 weeks some people will be lazy and wait till the last minute which may make them too comfortable in the AA zone.

Lets Aim to Start this February 28th 2011.

Current Participants:

AAAgent
sesshoDevrim
Gray The Prince
Stryker
Guinea Pig
Deicide
Feedline
Pierce
Angelo
Flint
powpow
umirinbrah
Ease
 
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I need something like this. I've been doing field work, but on my own terms. I'm still a virgin and I've only been cold approaching since October, so I am no veteran.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Nice to see some people stand up to face their fears.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Count me in.

I've read some of the DJ bible, but never really got in depth. Also I hardly know any theory behind pick up routines, so hopefully this will get my feet wet. I'm quitting my part time job and focusing more on school before the 28th, so I'll have more time to devote to picking up girls.
 

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Trying to think of reasons why this doesn't apply to me...

But i cant so write my name down!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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