"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girls who neg

The Sperminator

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Is it just me or do you hate them. Personally I neg but very lightly and not all the time just every now and then. I know a couple of girls who neg all the time. Everything that comes out of there mouth is an insult. They try to hard to be funny. I hate these girls. They always are negging me and it annoys the **** out of me. For example one girl at my work she does this all the time. At first I was attracted a little bit to her but she won't stop with the negs. I like a little teasing back and forth with each other but she goes too far. Like everything that comes out of her mouth is a neg I can't have a real conversation with her. I mean I always have come backs but it just gets to the point where I just want to tell her to shut the **** up. I'm not sensitive or anything I just can't take it when she does it like every time she talks to me. I'm tired of just insulting her back. I usually always have witting/funny comebacks but I'm getting tired of keeping it up. Anyone else experience this?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ketostix

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Yes when you start and maintain negs and C+F and keep coming back with replies, you create that type of "relationship". You should've changed gears quickly and went into comfort a long time ago.
 

The Sperminator

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Yeah I know what you mean. I did stop doing it a while ago but she still does it. Now instead of replying back with another smart ass comment I just ignore her. Because if I do a comeback she will just keep at it. I think she thinks I like that but I don't. What pisses me off even more is everytime I'm trying to game another girl she always butts in and negs me. She does this everytime. Now I can't stand this girl. Not only does she annoy me but now shes butting into my conversations all the time. I noticed too it's only when girls are flirting with me. I think she likes me but I hate her now.
 

ketostix

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Well I guess you've created a Frankenstein monster :D. She probably is interested in you.You might actually have to tell her to stop or get her into a deep "AFC" conversation to change her frame.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ElStud

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Sounds like she's overnegging. Girls get tired of constant negging too. You can start off negging her when you guys have just met, but if you don't start vibing with her, she'll get disinterested and she'll just get tired of the negs.
 

smooth guy

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If she doesn't neg everyone and it's your special treatment :D it can be a good sign.
But if you're in the friend zone or if she's interest I can't tell. But I've had a couple girls do this, and it either meant they saw me as a ****y guy but as a friend, or they were interested and it was their way of "flirting."
 
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