"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Girls who are shyer, cleaner, more conservative, less experienced

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Very broad topic, but what are some simple ways that the game changes with girls who are not as easy, not as open, had less guys before, basically LTR material, would test to the point of not allowing themselves to be quickly banged and discarded?

Some of these might want to get to know you over text more, before meeting in person

Tend to pull away from blatant sexuality if it's expressed early on. Would need to be done more covertly

What else?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Could be frustratingly structured... may also need to go slow. These ladies are not for impatient men.
 
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Could be frustratingly structured... may also need to go slow. These ladies are not for impatient men.
I have a ton of patience, but doesn't it seem likely that patience will just exceed the deadline of solidifying attraction?

If patience is all it takes then no problem, but I'd think one would need a host of other skills to really connect with the girl in a personal and sexual way, if she isn't open to going the quicker route of attraction.

Basically the longer she knows you without banging, the more you'd need to compensate with deeper methods of attraction, no?
 
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There should be a source to get info on specifically these girls and how to game them efficiently.
 

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There should be a source to get info on specifically these girls and how to game them efficiently.
Sure, eye contact works!!! Can be extremely sexual. Remember, the brain is the largest sex organ in the body. Been flirting with ladies for months, without touching them. Been doing good, I'm happy! But, then again, I'm in no hurry to get laid, lol!!!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I have a ton of patience, but doesn't it seem likely that patience will just exceed the deadline of solidifying attraction?

If patience is all it takes then no problem, but I'd think one would need a host of other skills to really connect with the girl in a personal and sexual way, if she isn't open to going the quicker route of attraction.

Basically the longer she knows you without banging, the more you'd need to compensate with deeper methods of attraction, no?
Sure, eye contact works!!! Can be extremely sexual. Remember, the brain is the largest sex organ in the body. Been flirting with ladies for months, without touching them. Been doing good, I'm happy! But, then again, I'm in no hurry to get laid, lol!!!
 

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The shyest ones are usually the freakiest in bed because all of the sexual repression they bottled up inside explodes when the time comes.
 

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There should be a source to get info on specifically these girls and how to game them efficiently.

All women should be treated the same in the sense that none of them should be placed on a pedestal. Good looking, ugly, fat, anorexic, rich, poor etc...It doesn't matter. They are all treated the same. No one gets special treatment because of certain perks unless it's your mother.
 

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The shyest ones are usually the freakiest in bed because all of the sexual repression they bottled up inside explodes when the time comes.
This is true. Wise words.

I've dated 3 virgins before and took all 3 of em. Every girl is a slut, she's just waiting for the right kind of guy to bring that out in her.
I dated many years before meeting these virgins and the experience of "experienced" girls really hardened me and got my game up to snuff. Then when I came off as I normally do to these girls it was like shooting a fish in a barrel. Easily the best relationships of my life have been with virgins, at least until they go nuts with jealousy.

A key concept that I found worked really well was establishing attraction with comfort at the same time. Because they are a virgin they have proven they aren't going to give it up for just any guy. Reassure them you won't vanish the next day but maintain your frame.
 

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Go easy on the negs. It is like fish in a barrel, so don't "game it". Go in with strong "gentleman suave" frame, pass **** tests, play good endgame. If they fail and you are sick of waiting, **** it. Move on.

Don't give them special focus. They are just another chick.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sounds like my girlfriend. She was shy, no sexual experience with guys at all and never had a boyfriend. I tried advancing early on, but I was denied. I remembered back to the time I was really shy, to understand how she was feeling. It's really just to feel uncomfortable around someone, like you don't know him/her or what may upset them (their boundaries).

So I mostly just focused on being comfortable, patient, open and calm. They usually open up if you just remain calm and understanding, not reacting emotionally negative and give them time. She gradually started being comfortable as she got to know me and see that I didn't do anything bad to her.

I had to take initiative for the sex though and the 5 first times she stopped me. I didn't try every time we met, again to ease her into it. Eventually she didn't stop me when I made advances and let me take her virginity. She was still a little shy though, but not anymore. Now she's just a little shy when we're around many people, but not at all when we're alone together.

She's turning out to be an amazing girlfriend. She's also very much into having sex, we're doing it every time we're together. Oddly enough she fvcks better than any experienced girl I've fvcked.

The game changes in such a way that you won't win unless you're seriously into having a relationship, meaning ordinary game is counterproductive. You either got to be honest or very deceptive to get them to bed. By deceptive I mean pretending to be interested in a relationship while you're really not. So basically don't play games.
 
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