"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Girls that were abused when younger or had a bad childhood
- Thread starter REPEM
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
DonGorgon
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Nov 28, 2007
- Messages
- 4,679
- Reaction score
- 102
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Don't have a girlfriend now, but it's better than the bullsh1t she would have put me through. I went through about a week of it before I realized I'd rather jerk off than spend another day dealing with her.
Seriously, don't bother with a chick that has these issues. If you really need to hit it, then do it once and then kick her to the curb. I'd rather you dump her and never know how right I was, than be sitting in a holding cell next to Bubba, wishing you had listened to Galactus.
Don't have a girlfriend now, but it's better than the bullsh1t she would have put me through. I went through about a week of it before I realized I'd rather jerk off than spend another day dealing with her.
Seriously, don't bother with a chick that has these issues. If you really need to hit it, then do it once and then kick her to the curb. I'd rather you dump her and never know how right I was, than be sitting in a holding cell next to Bubba, wishing you had listened to Galactus.
Don't have a girlfriend now, but it's better than the bullsh1t she would have put me through. I went through about a week of it before I realized I'd rather jerk off than spend another day dealing with her.
Seriously, don't bother with a chick that has these issues. If you really need to hit it, then do it once and then kick her to the curb. I'd rather you dump her and never know how right I was, than be sitting in a holding cell next to Bubba, wishing you had listened to Galactus.
Don't have a girlfriend now, but it's better than the bullsh1t she would have put me through. I went through about a week of it before I realized I'd rather jerk off than spend another day dealing with her.
Seriously, don't bother with a chick that has these issues. If you really need to hit it, then do it once and then kick her to the curb. I'd rather you dump her and never know how right I was, than be sitting in a holding cell next to Bubba, wishing you had listened to Galactus.
donnyjondeppjuando
Banned
- Joined
- May 14, 2011
- Messages
- 167
- Reaction score
- 0
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Deadly_Ripped
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Sep 29, 2003
- Messages
- 621
- Reaction score
- 26
At best they'll develop a dependence on you, and at worst they themselves will be abusive towards you. I wish this wasn't true, but you just can't change peoples' very basic motivations and insecurities without years of psychotherapy.
Plus, do you really want to be someone's psychiatrist? Some guys love the idea that they're saving a woman from a bad situation or even from herself, and I let those guys take care of these women.
donnyjondeppjuando
Banned
- Joined
- May 14, 2011
- Messages
- 167
- Reaction score
- 0
I wodner if my mum was abused or something happened with men. I was brought up alone with just her never any men around, she had no bfs, always say most men are *******s,,,she has dated 3 or 4 in my life and all respective men like very respectable jobs etc...never any player type dudes but most off time she alone.Deadly_Ripped said:
Absolutely. One of these girls sexually abused me by withholding sex (when she was staying at my place for days on end) and then finally giving in (but telling me to hurry up), all the while telling me about all the other men she had slept with (who she claimed she was equally abusive towards). On top of that, she was verbally abusive and emotionally abusive. Quite simply, she enjoyed hurting people, especially her ex-husband. Stay away from these women.Deadly_Ripped said:
I'm beginning to think that some guys inherently have less aggressive instincts than others. Aggression & indifference keeps these women in line. You sweet talk them with words & abuse them with actions, ignore them, fvck them & not call for days etc. (this is all stuff I did before ever knowing what a neg hit was).
If you're doing it right....this should be the pattern you see.
Step 1 - She's always trying to see you.
Step 2 - When she can't see you, she uses a barrage of phone calls & texts.
Step 3 - Failing that, she contacts any friends of yours she knows to ascertain your location.
Step 4 - When she sees you she's ultra affectionate & submissive.
Step 5 - She is constantly trying to expend your sexual energy by fulfilling every need(so you have nothing left for her competition).
Step 6 - She'll do everything in her power to then extract a ton of attention from you, in what should be your most relaxed/weakest moment.
Step 7 - During steps 1-4, she'll be whining & complaining about how terrible you treat her. This is the important part...
Feel free to repeat this cycle until you get bored of her. Usually any guy who is good looking + aggressive + confident will have these kinds of girls at his mercy. If you're lacking looks wise....increase the aggression.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This is a good general strategy for most women, and might work with damaged goods if you know in advance they are crazy, but normally by the time you find out they are damaged goods you have already been abused by them (and the relationship is never the same). Also, this pattern is remarkably similar to what already happened with my damaged goods example(s) - but once you actually like them (the goal of any relationship) it's all over. (Their condition is also called BPD). These women turn their back on you overnight, especially if they find themselves falling for you.Kirro said: