"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Girls that still have strong feelings for their ex's?

gimmeyofonenumba

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I did this last year. Things went really well, but after a few months the passion faded, she started loosing interest, I cut the ties, and she got engaged to her ex. Im now dating another girl, that is very similar, mentions her ex alot. Her facebook wall is loaded with encouraging breakup posts from her friends. This girl still has very strong feelings for the ex. This is a huge red flag, and if I have any sense of doubt I'm out. My quesion is, how do you play theese girls?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Iceberg

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I don't play them.

If you're having fun with this type of girl, then continue having fun. But don't look at them as any kind of longterm prospect. Because they're not.

They're either immature, or crazy and obsessive. Healthy adults don't go around blabbing about their ex to their new romantic prospects. They'll at least have the courtesy to save those conversations for friends.

So it's not about you changing the girl. It's about you having a reasonable expectation of where the girl fits into your life. Either dump her and move on, or keep her as a f**k buddy. This girl is not going to be any kind of LTR.
 

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Well said. I appreciate the advice Iceberg. I can tell you're speaking from experience. We met at a bar and hungout for drinks last night. Everything went well, kissed. Meeting up tom. per her recommendation. She even referred to him by name, and was asking about my past ex's. I told her I wont mention mine around her and she shouldnt either. It sucks because she has alota good qualities. but I've made this mistake before. I think I may have tl let her go
 

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keep us updated. i definitely have been there before and before things got too serious i just let her go.
 

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I'll just echo what Iceberg said.

Don't expect it to lead anywhere beyond sex, and even then, it may only be a one night stand over which she feels guilty and confused blah blah.

Also be prepared to waste a lot of time on her with nothing at the end of it. This is how it usually goes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A chick brings up strong feelings for her ex should simply be told: You should be talking with your girlfriends about that.

And go ghost. Period.
 

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Well here's my update..the day after the date,Friday, I thought I had her in the palm of my hand. We made arrangements to see each other the next day, on saturday. Saturday comes, and I ask her what time would work best. Hours go by, no response. She apologizes and we have a little flirty exchange, I didnt want to seem too desperate asking for a reschedule when she didnt offer it. Fastforward to sunday, and she posts on her fb that shes moving to another state within 5 days. Her friends seemed to be aware of it. But man..I was played. Not sure why he would waste my time knowing that'd she would be movinf a week later. Crazy woman.
 

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gimmeyofonenumba said:
Im now dating another girl, that is very similar, mentions her ex alot... This girl still has very strong feelings for the ex.
She even referred to him by name, and was asking about my past ex's.
I thought I had her in the palm of my hand.
Waitasecond, something doesn't add up here! ;)


Fastforward to sunday, and she posts on her fb that shes moving to another state within 5 days. Her friends seemed to be aware of it. But man..I was played. Not sure why he would waste my time knowing that'd she would be movinf a week later.
Because the friends already knew. But more importantly, SHE ALREADY KNEW. And she decided to go ahead and waste your time. Let that sink in...

Why would she do that? Because she realizes that a guy digs her and is willing to hang out with her even though she keeps mentioning the ex. "Hey, let's get some attention/validation out of this doofus before I leave to be with the guy that I like!"

Not trying to kick you while you're down guy but this is why you immediately drop women who don't dig you: you just waste time, money and effort on them, while they just give you false hope.

Learn from this experience.
 

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Vat, she's moving to a different state than where her ex lives. Her ex lives here and comes by her work. The rest is correct though. I should've cut it off sooner.
 
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I steer clear of women like this because it's only ever going to end badly, it's as pointless as shoving your head in an oven and switching on the gas.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's called a rebound relationship. It helps her deal with her emotions and it sucks for you if you think of it as anything other than potential short term sex. That's all it is. If your objective is having a GF you need to avoid girls who have recently left relationships (especially if the guy broke it off).
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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You guys are definitely right. My theory is that a woman who still has a strong emotional attachment, is technically not a woman for any other guy. By that I mean she cannot develop feelings and emotions that an ordinary woman would develop through sex or kissing,affection,etc.
 
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