"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girls that still have strong feelings for their ex's?

gimmeyofonenumba

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I did this last year. Things went really well, but after a few months the passion faded, she started loosing interest, I cut the ties, and she got engaged to her ex. Im now dating another girl, that is very similar, mentions her ex alot. Her facebook wall is loaded with encouraging breakup posts from her friends. This girl still has very strong feelings for the ex. This is a huge red flag, and if I have any sense of doubt I'm out. My quesion is, how do you play theese girls?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Iceberg

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I don't play them.

If you're having fun with this type of girl, then continue having fun. But don't look at them as any kind of longterm prospect. Because they're not.

They're either immature, or crazy and obsessive. Healthy adults don't go around blabbing about their ex to their new romantic prospects. They'll at least have the courtesy to save those conversations for friends.

So it's not about you changing the girl. It's about you having a reasonable expectation of where the girl fits into your life. Either dump her and move on, or keep her as a f**k buddy. This girl is not going to be any kind of LTR.
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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Well said. I appreciate the advice Iceberg. I can tell you're speaking from experience. We met at a bar and hungout for drinks last night. Everything went well, kissed. Meeting up tom. per her recommendation. She even referred to him by name, and was asking about my past ex's. I told her I wont mention mine around her and she shouldnt either. It sucks because she has alota good qualities. but I've made this mistake before. I think I may have tl let her go
 

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keep us updated. i definitely have been there before and before things got too serious i just let her go.
 

Jariel

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I'll just echo what Iceberg said.

Don't expect it to lead anywhere beyond sex, and even then, it may only be a one night stand over which she feels guilty and confused blah blah.

Also be prepared to waste a lot of time on her with nothing at the end of it. This is how it usually goes.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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A chick brings up strong feelings for her ex should simply be told: You should be talking with your girlfriends about that.

And go ghost. Period.
 

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Well here's my update..the day after the date,Friday, I thought I had her in the palm of my hand. We made arrangements to see each other the next day, on saturday. Saturday comes, and I ask her what time would work best. Hours go by, no response. She apologizes and we have a little flirty exchange, I didnt want to seem too desperate asking for a reschedule when she didnt offer it. Fastforward to sunday, and she posts on her fb that shes moving to another state within 5 days. Her friends seemed to be aware of it. But man..I was played. Not sure why he would waste my time knowing that'd she would be movinf a week later. Crazy woman.
 

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gimmeyofonenumba said:
Im now dating another girl, that is very similar, mentions her ex alot... This girl still has very strong feelings for the ex.
She even referred to him by name, and was asking about my past ex's.
I thought I had her in the palm of my hand.
Waitasecond, something doesn't add up here! ;)


Fastforward to sunday, and she posts on her fb that shes moving to another state within 5 days. Her friends seemed to be aware of it. But man..I was played. Not sure why he would waste my time knowing that'd she would be movinf a week later.
Because the friends already knew. But more importantly, SHE ALREADY KNEW. And she decided to go ahead and waste your time. Let that sink in...

Why would she do that? Because she realizes that a guy digs her and is willing to hang out with her even though she keeps mentioning the ex. "Hey, let's get some attention/validation out of this doofus before I leave to be with the guy that I like!"

Not trying to kick you while you're down guy but this is why you immediately drop women who don't dig you: you just waste time, money and effort on them, while they just give you false hope.

Learn from this experience.
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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Vat, she's moving to a different state than where her ex lives. Her ex lives here and comes by her work. The rest is correct though. I should've cut it off sooner.
 
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I steer clear of women like this because it's only ever going to end badly, it's as pointless as shoving your head in an oven and switching on the gas.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJuanabe

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It's called a rebound relationship. It helps her deal with her emotions and it sucks for you if you think of it as anything other than potential short term sex. That's all it is. If your objective is having a GF you need to avoid girls who have recently left relationships (especially if the guy broke it off).
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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You guys are definitely right. My theory is that a woman who still has a strong emotional attachment, is technically not a woman for any other guy. By that I mean she cannot develop feelings and emotions that an ordinary woman would develop through sex or kissing,affection,etc.
 
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