"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girls that like you but you don't like back

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There's been girls in the past and girl presently that are showing interest in me but I am not interested in them. In the past, I would have just stop talking to them because I saw no point in trying to befriend them because they would have the intention of turning me into their boyfriend. But, now I realize that befriending them would be good social proof. The girls can say good stuff about me to their friends and they'll hook me up and that's that. How would I go about trying to befriend a girl without making it seem like I don't like I'm interested in her as a girlfriend?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So pimp its scary

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I call that the curse.

You will ALWAYS have the fugly women that are BARELY in you're acceptable beauty range that adore you and worship the ground you walk on.

Then, you'll start to think you're the shyt cause you got all these followers behind you wanted to slobber your nob. Then a hottie comes around that you actually like, she's cute she's funny, she's got her shyt together... but she wants no part in you.

It takes alot more... game to pull a hottie than it does a fugly... simply put, accept it.
 

PRMoon

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Just go with the igorance thing. Unless they come out and say "I like you we should date" then you can hang out with them and just pretend like they just wanted to be friends in the first place and if it should come up about dating you can pull the "I like you as friend" thing that so many girls do to guys.

Nothing says you can't turn the tables on the opposite sex.
 

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Hahahaha I feel your pain bro.

This one girl I know is behaving as a pest as we speak.
Compliments over the smallest things, being clingy, trying to get my attention, watever. It gets annoying (now I know what an HB9-10 feels like!), but I just try to maintain SOME contact though.

She doesn't have too many hot friends, so I'm just "whatevers" with her. I sound pretty evil, but if she had hot hot friends I'd use her for social proof. Sorry, but life goes on.
 
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