"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girls that date White Trash complete and total Losers

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Do you guys consider this a big red flag?

This girl has been giving me obvious IOI's, eye contact with big smiles, acts shy and nervous around me, etc.. real cute chic. Looks like she's reaching for a new branch.


Here's the issue.

Her current BF is SUCH white trash, and I can't even stress that enough. They've been together a while. If you looked it up in the dictionary his face would be there. The type that is completely insecure, challenges people to fights, very obnoxious, has that trailer park look, just a complete jackass. I'm embarrassed for him. Its REALLY REALLY AWFUL! He's probably 30 with the mentality of a 4 year old.

On this girl, well, I don't know a ton about her but if you saw her you would say "what the hell is she doing with this guy?" Everybody says it. She dresses conservative, is college educated. She at least has the the look of somebody "normal". I know enough losers and their girlfriends and all these girls are similar in that you can see why they are with this type of person. This girl just doesn't fit the bill from what I can tell on the surface.

So, do I even bother with this chic?

It just really bothers me that she would even be with somebody like that. Its such a turnoff and I don't know if I'm being irrational here. I just see at as a red flag. It makes me believe that she is internally screwed up to find it acceptable to have a boyfriend like that. :kick:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If you get that inner gut instinct sense that she is probably messed up inside then listen to your gut instinct.

It never lies.

Sure sometimes a chick might get with a guy like this because he shows her some side of his personality that sets off her emotions that no other person is allowed access to or sees but most of the time its just a chick whose got no self respect dating a loser because she doesn't feel she's worth anything better.

Occam's razor.
 

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Dude, you sound like a pussy right now trying to rationalize whether or not you should be with a girl.

It sounds like your scared of her boyfriend..If you don't think you can beat him in a fight or he is to intimidating then stay away from her.

nothing wrong with avoiding bodily harm and knowing when to pick your fights...but don't sit here and start trying to pick her apart from a distance and make assumptions, high school chicks pull that shit NOT men, if she's not your type, fuck her and keep it moving sun son, (yea i said it twice)
 

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Metro3pilot said:
CAPTAIN SAV A HO

:rockon:
Ya think? Is a girl a ho because she ditches her bf for somebody else?

But I see where your coming from.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Drum&Bass said:
Dude, you sound like a pussy right now trying to rationalize whether or not you should be with a girl.

It sounds like your scared of her boyfriend..If you don't think you can beat him in a fight or he is to intimidating then stay away from her.

nothing wrong with avoiding bodily harm and knowing when to pick your fights...but don't sit here and start trying to pick her apart from a distance and make assumptions, high school chicks pull that shit NOT men, if she's not your type, fuck her and keep it moving sun son, (yea i said it twice)

Whoa, calm down. Did I touch a nerve.
 

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Nahhh .... doesnt make her a ho ......

it sounds like you wanna rescue her from this terrible fate bestowed upon her by dating some trailer trash guy ...when she's so much more quality than he is ....


" birds of feather flock together " chief

:rockon:
 

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He probably fvcks her real good.

She's with him for a reason - it aint status.

I wouldn't really care, by the way. I'd just look at it as an opportunity for her to upgrade.
 

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Metro3pilot said:
Nahhh .... doesnt make her a ho ......

it sounds like you wanna rescue her from this terrible fate bestowed upon her by dating some trailer trash guy ...when she's so much more quality than he is ....
Nah, wasn't thinking that way.


Metro3pilot said:
" birds of feather flock together " chief

:rockon:
Thats exactly what I was thinking.
 

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I would run as fast as I could in the other direction from this women. This is coming from a guy who is always up for a challenge. She's just a waste of time, nothing good could come of spending time with her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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KontrollerX said:
If you get that inner gut instinct sense that she is probably messed up inside then listen to your gut instinct.

It never lies.

Sure sometimes a chick might get with a guy like this because he shows her some side of his personality that sets off her emotions that no other person is allowed access to or sees but most of the time its just a chick whose got no self respect dating a loser because she doesn't feel she's worth anything better.

Occam's razor.
This brother has it right. Listen to the "little man" who lives in your gut. He never lies.

This girl is confusing her emotional sways as misguided love. She thinks she can change him but if she's interested in you then she is obviously looking for a way out. Brother D&B is quite crude but makes a valid point that her idiot may want to lean toward violence. In that case be sure you want to throw down with that garbage, that's up to you.
 

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MacAvoy said:
I would run as fast as I could in the other direction from this women. This is coming from a guy who is always up for a challenge. She's just a waste of time, nothing good could come of spending time with her.

you're probably right.
 
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Women tend to have very maleable personalities. They will often change depending on the person they are with. I would definetely do a follow up. Try imposing your will on her. See where it leads.
 

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GIANT_KILLER said:
Women tend to have very maleable personalities. They will often change depending on the person they are with. I would definetely do a follow up. Try imposing your will on her. See where it leads.
Impose your will? What do you mean by that?
 
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